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Don't you hate it when you aren't at home when the mail gets dropped off. The Post Office delivery guy
leaves the salmon colored paper slip in your mailbox saying you need to "sign" for a package to be picked
up at the post office THE FOLLOWING MORNING/DAY!!!
HECK YES I hate that, especially if it's a coin I REALLY want! And if I'm impatient enough, like tonight, I will
stop by close to the time the PO is closing to see if the mail truck has unloaded his/her unclaimed/unsigned
for packages.
WELL, tonight I got lucky!!! The 1:10 (one in ten, 1 in 10) times the packages are unloaded early my package
was there and I picked it up!!!
If only I didn't have to speed over to my night class on multivariate statistics (I love the class, it's super easy)
I would have ripped (gently) open the package to look at the coin. But I waited until after class (which got
out early) to carefully un-wrap the tape and other packaging contents to inspect THE COIN!!!
...and yes, it's a Bust Dime...so roll your eye's if you don't care, or keep salivating if you DO care!
My NewP Bust Dime is EXTREMELY RARE, although the die marriage isn't scarce, but the die state is!
Briefly, I have a side-collection of Capped Bust Dime Cuds, of which there are about 30 reported from 123 die marriages;
2 are unique and I own 1 of those 2 (and I know who owns the other unique cud). There are a couple other Cuds which
are quite rare too, and this is probably the 3rd or 4th rarest with an estimated surviving population (including this one),
of approximately 5 pieces!!! Of the 30 or so known Cuds, I believe this makes my 16th different example!
So, what is it:
1825 JR-4 (R2 - die marriage), terminal die state, with an Obverse Cud over stars 8-11.
In general, Obverse Cuds appear about 10-20% of the time as opposed to reverse Cuds in the Bust coin series; this is
due to the position of the obverse and reverse dies and which dies were the hammer and anvils, and thus the pressure
applied to each die was unequal - more pressure on the reverse dies leading to their failure much more often.
I have only seen images of 1 other example of this die state, and it was from a ever so slightly better detailed piece;
I call my coin a G-6 details, slight rim dings around 9-10 o'clock, and the other example is a VG-8 or 10.
Given my examples low grade (Good), it's impossible to tell whether this is a retained cud or a full cud because the wear
has generally obscurred the central detail of the Cud which exposes the field. I believe this is still a Retained Cud - since
the other known examples all exhibit the retained Cud diagnostics as well - for instance there isn't strike weakness
exhibited on the other side of the cud (reverse 3-5 o'clock). which would more positively indicate that part of the die
broke off providing an unstable striking platform on that area of the planchet by the reverse die!
Anyway, I'm just showing this off. My bid barely won it and it was QUITE expensive as such, but I would have been kicking
myself for not bidding higher if I had lost it! My next opportunity to acquire this die state will likely be in 10-20 years, or longer!
leaves the salmon colored paper slip in your mailbox saying you need to "sign" for a package to be picked
up at the post office THE FOLLOWING MORNING/DAY!!!
HECK YES I hate that, especially if it's a coin I REALLY want! And if I'm impatient enough, like tonight, I will
stop by close to the time the PO is closing to see if the mail truck has unloaded his/her unclaimed/unsigned
for packages.
WELL, tonight I got lucky!!! The 1:10 (one in ten, 1 in 10) times the packages are unloaded early my package
was there and I picked it up!!!
If only I didn't have to speed over to my night class on multivariate statistics (I love the class, it's super easy)
I would have ripped (gently) open the package to look at the coin. But I waited until after class (which got
out early) to carefully un-wrap the tape and other packaging contents to inspect THE COIN!!!
...and yes, it's a Bust Dime...so roll your eye's if you don't care, or keep salivating if you DO care!
My NewP Bust Dime is EXTREMELY RARE, although the die marriage isn't scarce, but the die state is!
Briefly, I have a side-collection of Capped Bust Dime Cuds, of which there are about 30 reported from 123 die marriages;
2 are unique and I own 1 of those 2 (and I know who owns the other unique cud). There are a couple other Cuds which
are quite rare too, and this is probably the 3rd or 4th rarest with an estimated surviving population (including this one),
of approximately 5 pieces!!! Of the 30 or so known Cuds, I believe this makes my 16th different example!
So, what is it:
1825 JR-4 (R2 - die marriage), terminal die state, with an Obverse Cud over stars 8-11.
In general, Obverse Cuds appear about 10-20% of the time as opposed to reverse Cuds in the Bust coin series; this is
due to the position of the obverse and reverse dies and which dies were the hammer and anvils, and thus the pressure
applied to each die was unequal - more pressure on the reverse dies leading to their failure much more often.
I have only seen images of 1 other example of this die state, and it was from a ever so slightly better detailed piece;
I call my coin a G-6 details, slight rim dings around 9-10 o'clock, and the other example is a VG-8 or 10.
Given my examples low grade (Good), it's impossible to tell whether this is a retained cud or a full cud because the wear
has generally obscurred the central detail of the Cud which exposes the field. I believe this is still a Retained Cud - since
the other known examples all exhibit the retained Cud diagnostics as well - for instance there isn't strike weakness
exhibited on the other side of the cud (reverse 3-5 o'clock). which would more positively indicate that part of the die
broke off providing an unstable striking platform on that area of the planchet by the reverse die!
Anyway, I'm just showing this off. My bid barely won it and it was QUITE expensive as such, but I would have been kicking
myself for not bidding higher if I had lost it! My next opportunity to acquire this die state will likely be in 10-20 years, or longer!
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-Paul
if the cud is that large in that condition, the unc version would have been a sight to behold!
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if the cud is that large in that condition, the unc version would have been a sight to behold! >>
Yes, the size of the Cud is also QUITE remarkable, and rare this large!
I should say the MDS with just the die cracks around where the Cud forms is also VERY RARE,
suggesting to me the die failed very quickly!
Very interesting coin - and although I have not a clue to the
overall rarity of the coin, I do know that when you get excited
about a Bust Dime, it has to be something of importance.
One of these days, I will get a Bust Dime Variety reference book,
and spend some time looking over your collection.
Congrats on your special newp.
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Good job---that is very unusual.
WRE
RMR: 'Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich denn aus der Engel Ordnungen?'
CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]
EAC 6024
<< <i>Sweet! I was watching the countdown hoping that you were going to pull it off.
I actually increased my original Max Bid by about 25% in the last few minutes because
I also felt any other interested bidders would come to the same max-bid amount! Psychology!!!
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<< <i>Sweet! I was watching the countdown hoping that you were going to pull it off.
I actually increased my original Max Bid by about 25% in the last few minutes because
I also felt any other interested bidders would come to the same max-bid amount! Psychology!!!
Nice! Looks like you need to change your major
EAC 6024
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<< <i>Sweet! I was watching the countdown hoping that you were going to pull it off.
I actually increased my original Max Bid by about 25% in the last few minutes because
I also felt any other interested bidders would come to the same max-bid amount! Psychology!!!
Nice! Looks like you need to change your major
Nahh, I like my major, even if it doesn't pay well!
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<< <i>Sweet! I was watching the countdown hoping that you were going to pull it off.
I actually increased my original Max Bid by about 25% in the last few minutes because
I also felt any other interested bidders would come to the same max-bid amount! Psychology!!!
Nice! Looks like you need to change your major
Nahh, I like my major, even if it doesn't pay well! >>
Well, if you find a centuries-old coin while on an archaeological dig, I will be very impressed!
RMR: 'Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich denn aus der Engel Ordnungen?'
CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
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<< <i>Saw it, was planning on running you up on the price, but missed it by mere minutes. I felt stupid when I missed it, and now I feel even worse.
Well, now you know where it resides and that it has a great home
Great pickup!
Still gotta get a book going!
Everytime I show my wife a coin that's what she tells me.
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<< <i>You are like a freeking magnet for cool bust dimes.
Great pickup!
Still gotta get a book going!
Too many positive BST transactions with too many members to list.