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I think someone scored a proof IHC for under $20.

relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,103 ✭✭✭✭✭
I believe this coin is a proof......Granted it may have problems. There are some small die chips or die scratches at the edge of the denticles near the first T and the A in STATES that is die marker for the 1905 proof, and I believe I can see them in the photos.

1905 Proof.
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  • I think its may be whizzed and re-toned
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  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think a cleaned proof IHC is still a cleaned IHC. The premium for a proof is just due to a special surface finish, and if that finish has been removed by cleaning and abuse, the premium goes with it. I'm thinking it's worth under $20. image



  • << <i>I think a cleaned proof IHC is still a cleaned IHC. The premium for a proof is just due to a special surface finish, and if that finish has been removed by cleaning and abuse, the premium goes with it. I'm thinking it's worth under $20. image >>



    Hi,

    I don't think it is just the surface finish. While the value may be seriously affected or nearly removed here, some Pr issues are of such low mintage a premium might remain.

    Best,
    Eric
  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think its may be whizzed and re-toned >>



    how can you tell it's whizzed based on the photos? are you saying that because of the field to the left of the face?
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  • WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have no knowledge of IHC proofs but often felt someone could (or is0 doing lot of cherry picking of proof cents off of ebay because there often appears a cent beyond what I would call a BS.

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  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,103 ✭✭✭✭✭
    An MS63RB sells for about half of what PF63RB sells for. A 1905 PF63RB is about $150 coin. It may not be a 63 it may have problems, but for $20 it's a pretty decent gamble and even if impaired would be easy to get you $20 back out of.

    I picked up this proof listed as a business strike with poor photos for $20 about 3 years ago. It's a PF63RD.

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  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,732 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I know someone who bought a run of 1890s and 1900s proof Indian Cents last year, all from the same seller, all advertised as business strikes. Once he'd received the first coin and confirmed it was a proof he bid aggressively on the others as they came up for bid. I also know he is still actively cherrypicking Indian cents and that he did not bid on the coin in the OP, for whatever that is worth (not much, really).


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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looking at the sellers other Rainbow IHC's and Buff's trust me no one is scoring anything!
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  • renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not to brag, but I found a proof 1907 for $7 at my B&M last year. It's in my 7070, but probably would grade at least a 63BN.
  • It looks like a business strike in the image but the image leaves a lot to be desired so and in hand inspection is going to be very telling one way or the other. Cleaned business strikes often look super close to a proof including reflective fields so who knows what your getting but your cost is minimal so you really can't get burnt
  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,103 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Looking at the sellers other Rainbow IHC's and Buff's trust me no one is scoring anything! >>



    Yeah, I didn't look at his other stuff. You're probably right, I but I still think I can see the die markers for a proof on that piece.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Looking at the sellers other Rainbow IHC's and Buff's trust me no one is scoring anything! >>



    Yeah, I didn't look at his other stuff. You're probably right, I but I still think I can see the die markers for a proof on that piece. >>



    I didn't even look at cent real close as I was more interested in other items after seeing the username and feedback level.

    The seller must have grown up without anything under his bed or in the closet as he's clueless to what a monster really is! imageimage
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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,673 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>An MS63RB sells for about half of what PF63RB sells for. >>


    That is probably true for the later dates, but for the middle dates (like 1876) they are valued much closer together.
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