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jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭✭✭
You know, sort of a slice of life kind of thing....? Who knows, I may join you all one day, and it'd be nice to know what I'm supposed to be doingimage

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,619 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    80% forum cruising

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  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭✭✭
    get up, get your stuff together,.....get there, set up.......figure out whats good to eat image

    ..and "play" coins
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  • johnravjohnrav Posts: 230 ✭✭


    watch these videos in the thread linked below, he details an average day, and sums up his career. might as well learn from the top..

    breakfast out, couple hours in the office, , , flip the best coins in the US, , , have clients buy dinner. etc...

    link to thread
  • thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>10% research

    10% selling/buying

    80% forum cruising >>



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  • hammered54hammered54 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭
    whats a dog do on it's day off ? image
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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,454 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Called one not long ago - he was busy at the Stacks preview.....for whatever that's worth.
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,572 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well it starts with "hello" and ends with "is this a long story ? "
  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Your typical brick and mortar dealer...


    Tells dozens of delusional customers that their circ. 1950s wheat cents are not rare coins.

    Sometimes moans and groans about how nothing interesting ever walks into their shop.

    Buys junk silver that walks in, and sells it over the phone to two or three contacts.

    Buys two 1881-s Morgans and put them in the case.

    Sells two 1881-s Morgans out of the case.

    Buys "stuff" and sells some of it.

    Occasionally deals with shady people who might not own the coins they're offering.

    Sells supplies and "stuff" coins to several customers.

    Socializes with the regulars.....


    This drudgery goes on for months, and then an uncertified collection of AU-MS bust halves in an album from the 1940s walks through the door, and things get real interesting. image



  • GreeniejrGreeniejr Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭
    Normal days start at about 7:30-8 when I get into the office. I answer emails, write up purchases, price stuff, break down collections, read CCE. When the store opens at 9 all sorts of stuff goes on. All those things continue with adding in answering phone calls and dealing with the people who come in over the counter. There is no "Typical" day. Today I ended up having to go with our guard to NTR to drop off bags of 90%. Other days not too much happens but we have a never ending supply of crap to sort, sell off, whatever.
    At shows it usually is breakfast at 6:30, at the convention center by 8, work until 5:30 or 6, go out to dinner, have a few drinks, go back to the hotel and collapse. Repeat
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,454 ✭✭✭✭✭
    After reading the above, I think playing with coins is much more fun than trying to make a living with coins. image
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Count their "pennies", I guess !!!
    Timbuk3
  • jt88jt88 Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't know. I can't figure it out. I can't even figure it how dealers make a living on selling coins.
  • AbsolutionAbsolution Posts: 336 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't know. I can't figure it out. I can't even figure it how dealers make a living on selling coins. >>



    If you sold everything you got from US Mint 2011 ASE for example you would make a killing =)
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  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    Lately I've spent too much time hand-holding with nervous nellies. --Jerry
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    worship the devil

    MJ
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    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,619 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Lately I've spent too much time hand-holding with nervous nellies. --Jerry >>


    Look at the bright side - it makes them dependent on you and your services.

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,675 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Count the minutes until lunch when they can get their chili dog.
    All glory is fleeting.
  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Practice surprised looks to use when people come in with a misspelled word on their Peace dollar.

  • jt88jt88 Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I don't know. I can't figure it out. I can't even figure it how dealers make a living on selling coins. >>



    If you sold everything you got from US Mint 2011 ASE for example you would make a killing =) >>



    Thanks a lot. That's very good info to know, maybe I will buy 2012 ASE. Thanks again.
  • poorguypoorguy Posts: 4,317
    Well, mostly photography, coin descriptions, taking and making calls, packing, shipping, writing website updates, cruising inventories for want list items, responding to emails, sending sales emails, invoicing, bookkeeping, inventory audits, putting coins on eBay, respomdimg to offers on eBay and website, researching, writing articles, viewing lots, budgeting, ect.
    Brandon Kelley - ANA - 972.746.9193 - http://www.bestofyesterdaycollectibles.com


  • << <i>Tells dozens of delusional customers that their circ. 1950s wheat cents are not rare coins. >>


    That sounds about right as it seems at least half my trips to the B&M are stuck waiting for my guy to get finished delivering bad news to someone...
  • JulianJulian Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Practice surprised looks to use when people come in with a misspelled word on their Peace dollar. >>



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    PNG member, numismatic dealer since 1965. Operates a retail store, also has exhibited at over 1000 shows.
    I firmly believe in numismatics as the world's greatest hobby, but recognize that this is a luxury and without collectors, we can all spend/melt our collections/inventories.

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  • NewEnglandRaritiesNewEnglandRarities Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭✭
    Check auction sites, eBay (sometimes) the forum after returning customer calls and emails. Then work on descriptions and photographs for the website, once that is done, email out to the IT guy. Grab some lunch (sometimes with a dealer or customer) head home to handle the day to day operations and then settle in for the Bruins or Celtics (The Celtics are getting skipped a bit these days).

    Of course, being a coin dealer is a bit similar to being a doctor in the way that we are always on call, so I expect at least one call a night (many more before a major auction or show) and talk coins for a couple of hours. I won't say it is that easy to make a living as a coin dealer, but it sure can be fun if you enjoy doing it all day!
    New England Rarities...Dealer In Colonial Coinage and Americana
  • MoldnutMoldnut Posts: 3,113 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Your typical brick and mortar dealer...


    Tells dozens of delusional customers that their circ. 1950s wheat cents are not rare coins.

    Sometimes moans and groans about how nothing interesting ever walks into their shop.

    Buys junk silver that walks in, and sells it over the phone to two or three contacts.

    Buys two 1881-s Morgans and put them in the case.

    Sells two 1881-s Morgans out of the case.

    Buys "stuff" and sells some of it.

    Occasionally deals with shady people who might not own the coins they're offering.

    Sells supplies and "stuff" coins to several customers.

    Socializes with the regulars.....


    This drudgery goes on for months, and then an uncertified collection of AU-MS bust halves in an album from the 1940s walks through the door, and things get real interesting. image >>






    This is so trueimage
    Derek

    EAC 6024
  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Your typical brick and mortar dealer...


    Tells dozens of delusional customers that their circ. 1950s wheat cents are not rare coins.

    Sometimes moans and groans about how nothing interesting ever walks into their shop.

    Buys junk silver that walks in, and sells it over the phone to two or three contacts.

    Buys two 1881-s Morgans and put them in the case.

    Sells two 1881-s Morgans out of the case.

    Buys "stuff" and sells some of it.

    Occasionally deals with shady people who might not own the coins they're offering.

    Sells supplies and "stuff" coins to several customers.

    Socializes with the regulars.....


    This drudgery goes on for months, and then an uncertified collection of AU-MS bust halves in an album from the 1940s walks through the door, and things get real interesting. image >>


    This is so trueimage >>



    Or a raw set of 1901 Proof Gold, which since it was stored under a bed in 2X2's in a felt bag, looked like a good chew toy for the family dog. imageimage <-<-<-<- true story image

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  • ajmanajman Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭
    Figure out how I'm going to get that mustard stain off my shirt.
    Beer is Proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy -Benjamin Franklin-
  • jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Well it starts with "hello" and ends with "is this a long story ? " >>



    I knew two sides would not disapoint.....image
  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    after inventory, shipping, buying and selling my best friend and I do this!

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  • jhdflajhdfla Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭
    Go in the back room with another dealer and play gin rummy all day.
  • pennyanniepennyannie Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭
    A typical day just depends on the person and his goals. Most successful self employeed people put in a ton of hours and enjoy working.




    Sounds like work so i will pass. I just sit around and wait for the 1st of the month to roll around and then i find a pen and spend a day or 2 endorsing the back of rent checks. One of these days i am going to invest in a rubber stamp that says for deposit only so i can come up with some more free time.image


    Mark
    NGC registry V-Nickel proof #6!!!!
    working on proof shield nickels # 8 with a bullet!!!!

    RIP "BEAR"
  • pennyanniepennyannie Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭
    I forget to add that you have to polish the bullets in the 14 guns that are behind the counter, on the dest, by the cash register and on your belt.

    After you get the bullets polished, you got to get the 10 trays out of the vault that see all the action before you bring out the 60 trays from the vault that have the same coins in them since the year 2000 so the store looks full. Every few years you got to put the coins in new 2 x 2's when you run out of room from crossing out all the old prices to add the new price

    Mark
    NGC registry V-Nickel proof #6!!!!
    working on proof shield nickels # 8 with a bullet!!!!

    RIP "BEAR"
  • Glad the OP posted this. I've been wondering the same myself. image What I'm curious about is how you guys make profit off of coins. I don't want to be a dealer, but I realize that my eyes are bigger than my coin collecting budget. So I thought it would be nice to try to buy coins on the cheap and sell them for profit, like through eBay, so I can buy coins for my fledgling collection. But assuming I want to make a meager 5% profit after the 9% eBay fee, 2.9% PayPal fee, and $10 (at least) shipping, I would need to win a heritage or teletrade auction for an unrealistically cheap price.
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>watch these videos in the thread linked below, he details an average day, and sums up his career. might as well learn from the top..

    breakfast out, couple hours in the office, , , flip the best coins in the US, , , have clients buy dinner. etc...

    link to thread >>

    image Sorry, but Kevin Lipton is not a typical coin dealer. To use his day as a gauge as to "what do coin dealers do all day?" is like using Bill Gates to define what a computer guy does during the day.
    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
  • JBatDavidLawrenceJBatDavidLawrence Posts: 504 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great question!!!
    I'm working on a blog today in response that I'll post a link on here as well. It's a running commentary on my 9-5 (never ending at 5) job I guess...I believe it will be fairly long and not likely grammatically correct, to the dismay of my wife the 1st Grade Teacher and writer... image
    John Brush
    President of David Lawrence Rare Coins www.davidlawrence.com
    email: John@davidlawrence.com
    2022 ANA Dealer of the Year, Past Chair of NCBA (formerly ICTA), PNG Treasurer, Instructor at Witter Coin University, former Instructor/YN Chaperone ANA Summer Seminar, Coin World Most Influential, Curator of the D.L. Hansen Collection
  • Luckily, I was able to obtain this itinerary from my local dealer.


    9:45 AM - Roll out of bed and get dressed. Reuse mustard stained shirt from yesterday, it's not that bad.

    10:15 AM - Arrive 15 minutes late to open shop. Tell customer waiting at door that this is the first time this has happened.

    10:20 AM - Ignore customer while retrieving from the safe, case after case of overpriced coins that have been in inventory for 17 years.

    11:05 AM - Finally acknowledge customer, but make sure that they know you have better things to do than wait on them.

    11:10 AM - Show customer overpriced coins and make sure they understand how stupid they are if they ask any questions.

    11:30 AM - Close for 1 hour lunch.

    11:35 AM - Acquire additional mustard stains on shirt.

    11:50 AM - Arrive back home for lunch hour nap.

    1:20 PM - Reopen store after concluding 1 hour lunch break.

    1:25 PM - Pick nose since no customers in store, although that's not a hard and fast rule.

    1:45 PM - Guy with baggy pants, baseball cap, and Lakers jersey walks in to sell Grandma's collection, which happens to be loose in a bag because that how grandma liked to store her collection.

    1:46 PM - Pay guy $200 for grandmas collection.

    1:47 PM - Flip grandmas collection for $1500 to large wholesale dealer.

    1:48 PM to 2:45 PM - Surf CU.

    3:00 PM - Father and son walk in. Yell at kid not to touch anything. Lecture kid about how things were done in the old days.

    3:25 PM - Stare at father and kid until they leave. Close store 35 minutes early.

    4:00 PM - Hit local bar.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,817 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Luckily, I was able to obtain this itinerary from my local dealer.


    9:45 AM - Roll out of bed and get dressed. Reuse mustard stained shirt from yesterday, it's not that bad.

    10:15 AM - Arrive 15 minutes late to open shop. Tell customer waiting at door that this is the first time this has happened.

    10:20 AM - Ignore customer while retrieving from the safe, case after case of overpriced coins that have been in inventory for 17 years.

    11:05 AM - Finally acknowledge customer, but make sure that they know you have better things to do than wait on them.

    11:10 AM - Show customer overpriced coins and make sure they understand how stupid they are if they ask any questions.

    11:30 AM - Close for 1 hour lunch.

    11:35 AM - Acquire additional mustard stains on shirt.

    11:50 AM - Arrive back home for lunch hour nap.

    1:20 PM - Reopen store after concluding 1 hour lunch break.

    1:25 PM - Pick nose since no customers in store, although that's not a hard and fast rule.

    1:45 PM - Guy with baggy pants, baseball cap, and Lakers jersey walks in to sell Grandma's collection, which happens to be loose in a bag because that how grandma liked to store her collection.

    1:46 PM - Pay guy $200 for grandmas collection.

    1:47 PM - Flip grandmas collection for $1500 to large wholesale dealer.

    1:48 PM to 2:45 PM - Surf CU.

    3:00 PM - Father and son walk in. Yell at kid not to touch anything. Lecture kid about how things were done in the old days.

    3:25 PM - Stare at father and kid until they leave. Close store 35 minutes early.

    4:00 PM - Hit local bar. >>



    I think I know that dealer.image


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