Can anyone tell me what year this Fat Man is?

GMan

I can't figure it out and thought I'd ask.

Bjorn

Looks like a year 7, so 1918...

Stork

I don't know much about Chinese coins, but I think I see an 8, not a 7, that's the third character from the left. The second character from the left looks like the 'nen' character on the Japanese coins that stands for the date/year. Kanji is basically preserved for this sort of thing.

Cathy


(this is my Japanese coin date link that can show you what the numbers look like. Obviously the years will not correspond at all, but at least you can see what the numbers look like).

MacCrimmon

Don't know the dating, etc., but that coin itself looks to be a counterfeit. Is the type or dates mentioned a valuable?

lordmarcovan

I don't know enough about these to determine a counterfeit, but I too would be slightly concerned.

(If only because of the prevalence of counterfeits from that era of Chinese coins.)

Bjorn

Good call - I only know the 1 through 6 and 9 and 10 by heart, so I probably flubbed on this one... so a Year 8 (1919). Thanks for the correction!

--Bjorn



<< <i>I don't know much about Chinese coins, but I think I see an 8, not a 7, that's the third character from the left. The second character from the left looks like the 'nen' character on the Japanese coins that stands for the date/year. Kanji is basically preserved for this sort of thing.

Cathy


(this is my Japanese coin date link that can show you what the numbers look like. Obviously the years will not correspond at all, but at least you can see what the numbers look like). >>

sumnom

Yes, it is 1919 (year 8) for sure. I have read, however, that the year on the coin may or may not be the year the coin was actually minted. I don't know if there is anyway to know when it was actually produced. Apparently dies were used for many years after their manufacture.

sumnom

Since Yuan Shikai died a hated man in 1916, I wonder why they kept his image on the yuan coin. Does anybody know?

GMan

I have no idea if it's a counterfeit. It weighs 26.1 grams so I think that's pretty close. The surfaces are scratched to beat all heck which gives the obverse that rough look in the fields. The two spots at 3:00 and 9:30 have a weird granular look to them so they're either planchet flaws or some kind of weird PMD.

Here's a larger image if that helps:

candy2012mustang

Maybe a restrike? They made Fat man and Junk dollar restrikes in the 1940's to pay Nationalist Soldiers..

TwoKopeiki

I'm also going to go with a counterfeit. Not liking the look of this one, plus if I'm not mistaken this is one of the heavily counterfeited designs.

Andres

A couple of years ago I bought a whole bunch of chinese dragon - export coins
amongst them there were these 2 Fatman coins,
price was $ 0.99 a piece .

I would only pay real money for these coins if they are graded & encapsuled by a reliable grading company.
just my 2 cents.