1825 N5 !!!!
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I did search these boards a bit before double posting but it appears this is the first.
In my CQR for the 1825 newcomb listings it goes from n4 to n6 and as a somewhat new copper
collector/dealer it was quite confusing. I just figured it was a variety someone along the line de-listed as they
found out it was one of the previously discovered varieties.
BUT
I was working on my site today and attempting to find some information on Howard Newcomb. Then I
stumbled upon this & this article and it just blew me away and also blew me away yet again that no one here had posted
about it???
For those unfamiliar with Tom he is the proprietor of large cents dot net. We worked together some time ago
after the Walter Husak sale to get all of walt's images posted for online viewing on his site with Walt's permission of
course.
I did search these boards a bit before double posting but it appears this is the first.
In my CQR for the 1825 newcomb listings it goes from n4 to n6 and as a somewhat new copper
collector/dealer it was quite confusing. I just figured it was a variety someone along the line de-listed as they
found out it was one of the previously discovered varieties.
BUT
I was working on my site today and attempting to find some information on Howard Newcomb. Then I
stumbled upon this & this article and it just blew me away and also blew me away yet again that no one here had posted
about it???
For those unfamiliar with Tom he is the proprietor of large cents dot net. We worked together some time ago
after the Walter Husak sale to get all of walt's images posted for online viewing on his site with Walt's permission of
course.
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Here's an 1825. Not an N-5.
<< <i>Here's an 1825. Not an N-5. >>
i cannot see the relevance of your post, can you elaborate please
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I did search these boards a bit before double posting but it appears this is the first.
In my CQR for the 1825 newcomb listings it goes from n4 to n6 and as a somewhat new copper
collector/dealer it was quite confusing. I just figured it was a variety someone along the line de-listed as they
found out it was one of the previously discovered varieties.
BUT
I was working on my site today and attempting to find some information on Howard Newcomb. Then I
stumbled upon this & this article and it just blew me away and also blew me away yet again that no one here had posted
about it???
For those unfamiliar with Tom he is the proprietor of large cents dot net. We worked together some time ago
after the Walter Husak sale to get all of walt's images posted for online viewing on his site with Walt's permission of
course. >>
ahem
thankfully TD gave me authorization to post the coin which is the whole point of this thread
curious about what the big deal is, read the links in the OP for the articles
Very interesting story. Tom Deck gets a "You suck" award in absentia.
“Put it in my collection"
Good for him!
<< <i>Bob Grellman, a copper specialist auctioneer, estimated the G-4 graded coin would be worth in the five figures if sold at auction ($10,000 and up). >>
Someone with a complete set of middle dates by Newcomb variety might want this coin, otherwise I don't see demand to bring a five-figure price. I have been wrong before, however.
Kudos to the discoverer, and please post any and all such news on this forum, as it is THIS kind of information that makes the forum worth reading, not endless threads about getting jobbed on eBay by sellers of artificially toned junk and ASE 25th anniversary sets.
<< <i>Wow, this relatively unheralded discovery is indeed a historic find! To think that such a coin could have floated around out there since the 1880s without a single example turning up, after which a dedicated collector accidentally cherrypicks one off eBay without realizing it, truly blows my mind. This discovery is just living proof that scholarly research and diligence by an astute collector can pay off in a huge way!
Kudos to the discoverer, and please post any and all such news on this forum, as it is THIS kind of information that makes the forum worth reading, not endless threads about getting jobbed on eBay by sellers of artificially toned junk and ASE 25th anniversary sets.
rotfl - took the words right outta my mouth!
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An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.
<< <i>Wow, this relatively unheralded discovery is indeed a historic find! To think that such a coin could have floated around out there since the 1880s without a single example turning up, after which a dedicated collector accidentally cherrypicks one off eBay without realizing it, truly blows my mind. This discovery is just living proof that scholarly research and diligence by an astute collector can pay off in a huge way!
Kudos to the discoverer, and please post any and all such news on this forum, as it is THIS kind of information that makes the forum worth reading, not endless threads about getting jobbed on eBay by sellers of artificially toned junk and ASE 25th anniversary sets.
I agree completely (except I just skip the threads about the stuff that doesn't interest me). Stories like this one are what keep me looking at coins every day.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
just for those that have missed this
one last
ttt
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<< <i>Bob Grellman, a copper specialist auctioneer, estimated the G-4 graded coin would be worth in the five figures if sold at auction ($10,000 and up). >>
Someone with a complete set of middle dates by Newcomb variety might want this coin, otherwise I don't see demand to bring a five-figure price. I have been wrong before, however. >>
They are many people trying to complete a Middle Date Newcomb variety set. Now only one can do it, so I could see this coin bringing $10,000 or more! But then I have been wrong before too!
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Alas, I do not have an 1825 in my set to share.
Possibly the most interesting question:
How many more 1825 N5 examples will turn up, now that its existence has been proven?
It would seem likely that most collectors stopped checking for them when they became delisted in the current attribution guides?
<< <i>It would seem likely that most collectors stopped checking for them when they became delisted in the current attribution guides? >>
agreed
as if i didn't have enough database work to do this year now it seems i'm going to need to research all the "blank spots" i've marked in my CQR
and for that matter any other series that have "skips" in attribution numbers
guess things could be worse huh?
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<< <i>Is this the coolest thread, this is what hunting, researching and reading about numismatics is all about. COngrads to the finder, just incredible. Loved this thread, thanks Lance for sharing! >>
yw.
thanks to Tom for being so open and public about it.
too bad i got antsy, coulda waited a couple weeks and made the annual celebration of this thread, grrr.
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