<< <i>i don't have a photo of the rev right now, but it's blast white. i'll post one tomorrow. i think the obv toning looks like a nebula. i like it! >>
Yea, that's the problem. I don't think a coin with MA toning will have such strong toning on the obverse and a blast white reverse.
<< <i>i don't have a photo of the rev right now, but it's blast white. i'll post one tomorrow. i think the obv toning looks like a nebula. i like it! >>
Yea, that's the problem. I don't think a coin with MA toning will have such strong toning on the obverse and a blast white reverse. >>
Bad genericizing on these SAEs in particular. Many NT (and MA by virtue of being NT, though not all NT are MA) are strongly toned on the exposed side and blast white on the covered side. Take, for instance, the cardboard aftermarket holders that are in a plastic holder as well. I have seen the top side exposed when the plastic is up and the coin tone. The bottom side can largely stay blast white. Sometimes it may tone a little, but not always. Though, usually, there is some periphery toning on the non-exposed side as well.
Those who automatically say AT don't know much about how these tone. By the usual definition of natural toning, (IE: no deliberate intent), the coin is likely NT. It also likely would not grade.
I have posted on this topic many times before . . .
Around 2003 I took a flyer and sent in 30 vibrantly toned ASEs to PCGS. These were all from the "Snap-Fit" holders with the 'Happy Birthday' or 'Congratulations' cardboard inserts. Probably 25 of the 30 had identical toning to the OP coin. Every reverse was blast white for the exact reason mentioned by Ron.
All 30 graded. They are the core of most of the toned ASEs rolling around to this day in PCGS holders. I see them still all across the country priced from $200 -- $800. I sold about half for $50-$100 each, and I guess you could say they have been 'marked up'. Why did they grade? I do not know. Even I expected a few to not make it, although I know exactly how they toned and got them from 6-7 Utah coin shops over several years. Old ladies bring them back in after leaving the lid unsnapped and allowing air to get to the coin and the highly sulphurous cardboard. They complained about the 'tarnish' (sorry Ricko), got a new blast white one, and I picked up the toned one for $1 over melt per coin.
This is one of those toners . . . .
Now, how you choose to view that toning is all up to you, but the Snap-Fits that have the lid left open will give this exact progression in about 6 months, depending on ambient conditions. AT / NT / BFD ??? Call it what you want. But that is how it toned.
Here's one I had in an envelope, and I've had several that look similar to that pattern.
The color is a little washed out, the middle part is a sort of electric blue. I agree with Russ that people who hop directly on the AT bus typically aren't aware of how these tone.
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What do I think? I think the first link you give, to the MS68 1998 does not look, to me, like hte one you posted. The 2nd one, is a bit more, but I actually don't like either of them.
That said, it's your coin and if you like it, then, to me, that's what matters
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<< <i>i don't have a photo of the rev right now, but it's blast white. i'll post one tomorrow. i think the obv toning looks like a nebula. i like it! >>
Yea, that's the problem. I don't think a coin with MA toning will have such strong toning on the obverse and a blast white reverse.
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<< <i>i don't have a photo of the rev right now, but it's blast white. i'll post one tomorrow. i think the obv toning looks like a nebula. i like it! >>
Yea, that's the problem. I don't think a coin with MA toning will have such strong toning on the obverse and a blast white reverse. >>
Bad genericizing on these SAEs in particular. Many NT (and MA by virtue of being NT, though not all NT are MA) are strongly toned on the exposed side and blast white on the covered side. Take, for instance, the cardboard aftermarket holders that are in a plastic holder as well. I have seen the top side exposed when the plastic is up and the coin tone. The bottom side can largely stay blast white. Sometimes it may tone a little, but not always. Though, usually, there is some periphery toning on the non-exposed side as well.
Same for other methods of storage.
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<< <i>Sorry, I like a lot of toned SAEs but I am not liking the look on that one. >>
i agree, i got some toning in an album but i do not like that one either
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Around 2003 I took a flyer and sent in 30 vibrantly toned ASEs to PCGS. These were all from the "Snap-Fit" holders with the 'Happy Birthday' or 'Congratulations' cardboard inserts. Probably 25 of the 30 had identical toning to the OP coin. Every reverse was blast white for the exact reason mentioned by Ron.
All 30 graded. They are the core of most of the toned ASEs rolling around to this day in PCGS holders. I see them still all across the country priced from $200 -- $800. I sold about half for $50-$100 each, and I guess you could say they have been 'marked up'. Why did they grade? I do not know. Even I expected a few to not make it, although I know exactly how they toned and got them from 6-7 Utah coin shops over several years. Old ladies bring them back in after leaving the lid unsnapped and allowing air to get to the coin and the highly sulphurous cardboard. They complained about the 'tarnish' (sorry Ricko), got a new blast white one, and I picked up the toned one for $1 over melt per coin.
This is one of those toners . . . .
Now, how you choose to view that toning is all up to you, but the Snap-Fits that have the lid left open will give this exact progression in about 6 months, depending on ambient conditions. AT / NT / BFD ??? Call it what you want. But that is how it toned.
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there is a little bit of toning on the back, i was mistaken.
-D
-Aristotle
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-Horace
The color is a little washed out, the middle part is a sort of electric blue. I agree with Russ that people who hop directly on the AT bus typically aren't aware of how these tone.
-D
-Aristotle
Dum loquimur fugerit invida aetas. Carpe diem quam minimum credula postero.
-Horace
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so...what do you think now?
I just think your color is a little off
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<< <i>well, i think the AT camp might be wrong about this one...here's a few on ebay that look very similar...except they are in PCGS plastic:
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so...what do you think now?
What do I think? I think the first link you give, to the MS68 1998 does not look, to me, like hte one you posted.
The 2nd one, is a bit more, but I actually don't like either of them.
That said, it's your coin and if you like it, then, to me, that's what matters
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