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A 1922 no D Lincoln Cent with a few obverse issues - Would it Grade? UPDATE, Just got back from PCGS

MVCMVC Posts: 277
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A 1922 no D Lincoln Cent with a few issues on the obverse, such as the indent under Liberty and the scratches to the right . Would PCGS grade it grade? Grade opinions welcome

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  • kevinstangkevinstang Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭
    I don't know it they would grade it, but I think I can see traces of the D mintmark- a weak D coin?
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,728 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's definitely a Strong Reverse (or Die#2 or No D). From the reverse it looks like it would grade in the low-VF range (I'd call it VF-25). Because poor planchet and die quality is expected on this variety, the pock mark under LIBERTY doesn't bother me. However, I would be worried about the scratches, since those look la lot "fresher", as if they happened recently.

    If I'm misinterpreting some camera glare and in the hand it looks like those scratches were the result of circulation and decades old, I could see the coin grading, since they are not inconsistent with a coin in the VF range. If they are of a more recent vintage, then I would expect you to get a Genuine holder.


    Sean Reynolds

    (edited to change the die number above)
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  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    These are coins that should always be sent in, just for the fact of the weak D comment in the thread will vary widely from buyer to buyer should you choose to liquidate this coin. At a minimum it would be good to have this in a Details holder should it not get a problem free grade.
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  • Bigrig52Bigrig52 Posts: 677
    Looks like a weak D to me also
  • Bigrig52Bigrig52 Posts: 677
    I wouldn't waste my money on sending it in but thats me
  • drwstr123drwstr123 Posts: 7,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Before you send it in, read:
    NO-D, WEAK-D
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    I think the scratches are okay. I'd worry about the indent more than anything.
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  • lusterloverlusterlover Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭✭
    I think it gennies for the gouges but you need to send it in to unlock the value and clear up the weak D arguement.
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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>These are coins that should always be sent in, just for the fact of the weak D comment in the thread will vary widely from buyer to buyer should you choose to liquidate this coin. At a minimum it would be good to have this in a Details holder should it not get a problem free grade. >>



    exactly what i would do with it

    i just get the feeling these are difficult to authenticate
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  • MVCMVC Posts: 277
    Just got this one back from PCGS. Came back as a 1922 No D Strong Reverse F12.
  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,096 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Just got this one back from PCGS. Came back as a 1922 No D Strong Reverse F12. >>



    Excellent score. Undoubtedly the Strong Reverse variety.

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  • JupitarCoinsJupitarCoins Posts: 2,595 ✭
    How can it be a no d when you can see a weak d from the pic?
    I dont get it!!!
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  • Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭
    I don't believe that it is a d you are seeing.
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  • MVCMVC Posts: 277


    << <i>How can it be a no d when you can see a weak d from the pic?
    I dont get it!!! >>



    It is an interesting coin. I can look at it at any angle under good light and cannot see any hint of a mint mark, but when I took a picture, there did seem to be something there.
  • gonzergonzer Posts: 3,051 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>How can it be a no d when you can see a weak d from the pic?
    I dont get it!!! >>



    It is an interesting coin. I can look at it at any angle under good light and cannot see any hint of a mint mark, but when I took a picture, there did seem to be something there. >>



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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,663 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Just got this one back from PCGS. Came back as a 1922 No D Strong Reverse F12. >>



    Exactly what I called it just now.
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  • MercfanMercfan Posts: 701 ✭✭
    Congratulations, and thanks for letting us know how it turned out!

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  • lusterloverlusterlover Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭✭
    Congrats. I think you should thank your lucky stars. Between the rim ding, gouges, and black spots, I would have bet significant $ that would bag. Egg on my face. Having said that, I'd go double or nothing that it would not get the green beanimage
    pcgs.com/SetRegistry/half-cents/lincoln-cents-specialty-sets/lincoln-cents-basic-set-colorless-matte-proof-1909-1916/publishedset/102180
    https://pcgs.com/setregistry/showcase/2819
  • WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,908 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Glad you sent it in and got graded.

    WS
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  • ClosedLoopClosedLoop Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭
    congrats...image
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  • BackintimeBackintime Posts: 26


    I was going to say that I would give it an F12, and I am usually not as good at grading circulated lincolns

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