Way OT: 1900s? Waltham Pocket Watch

TonyC

Someone posted asking if anyone knew about an antique German rifle a few days ago, so I am taking a shot in the dark that someone here knows about pocket watches.

One of my customers showed me a Waltham pocket watch that was passed down from his grandmother. He said he showed it to someone he knows that has some knowledge of watches, and that person said it looks like a turn of the century watch and that it is gold. The serial number on the inside of the watch matches the one on the flip.

I have some pictures below; he is not looking to sell it, he just wants to know more about it and the value, so if anyone here knows anything or can direct him somewhere, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,
Mike

Bigjohn69

ebay past auction results, even the insurance companies paying claims for replacement insurance uses it,, true,, j

TonyC

I looked at eBay, I just didn't know if someone could narrow it down to a model or year or something as there are many variations.

ndleo

He should contact the Waltham company directly for more info. You can find the company email on the homepage. The Swiss watch companies usually have someone on staff to answer questions about vintage product.

If it is gold, it is probably worth a few thousand dollars depending on the model.

jeffcbay

I might have found some history on your pocket watch.

divecchia

The few gold watches that I've seen have a 14K or 18K stamp inside the back cover case of the pocket watch. Some watches have 2 back covers and you have to open both exposing the watch works inside. Usually there it will have a stamp of 14K or 18K if it is not gold filled. Also if you open the back cover you should find a serial number for the watch. The number shown on the your picture may not be the serial number, usually it is found on the inner cover or on the watch works.

Link for serial number

Donato

CEOBIDMC

some good advice so far, you need the number off the movement not the case and you can plug that number into a watch search engine to determine the age.

TonyC

<< <i>The few gold watches that I've seen have a 14K or 18K stamp inside the back cover case of the pocket watch. Some watches have 2 back covers and you have to open both exposing the watch works inside. Usually there it will have a stamp of 14K or 18K if it is not gold filled. Also if you open the back cover you should find a serial number for the watch. The number shown on the your picture may not be the serial number, usually it is found on the inner cover or on the watch works.

Link

Donato >>



This was the info that came up when I put the number on the flip in:

Start: 10/1/1871 End: 11/1/1871
First: 567001 Last: 567100
Model: 1857 Name: Wm Ellery
Material: A Grade: Home, Wm.E.
Size: 18 Size: 18
Plate: FP Plate: NL
Jewelling: 4 Holes Jewels: 7-11
Balance: steel Bal: Exp.-Steel
Style: KW
Style:

NL

Comment:
Source: WA
Date:

12/19/2002




What does that mean?

divecchia

<< <i>

<< <i>The few gold watches that I've seen have a 14K or 18K stamp inside the back cover case of the pocket watch. Some watches have 2 back covers and you have to open both exposing the watch works inside. Usually there it will have a stamp of 14K or 18K if it is not gold filled. Also if you open the back cover you should find a serial number for the watch. The number shown on the your picture may not be the serial number, usually it is found on the inner cover or on the watch works.

Link

Donato >>



This was the info that came up when I put the number on the flip in:

Start: 10/1/1871 End: 11/1/1871
First: 567001 Last: 567100
Model: 1857 Name: Wm Ellery
Material: A Grade: Home, Wm.E.
Size: 18 Size: 18
Plate: FP Plate: NL
Jewelling: 4 Holes Jewels: 7-11
Balance: steel Bal: Exp.-Steel
Style: KW
Style:

NL

Comment:
Source: WA
Date:

12/19/2002




What does that mean? >>



You need the number inside where the watch works are located, not the one on the inside cover.

Donato

Edited to add: If this were the number it would mean it was made beween 10/1/1871 to 11/1/1871 is how I would read it. The rest explains the watch type how many jewels in the movement and the size of the watch.

CEOBIDMC

your plugging the wrong number into the search engine, you need to take a picture of the movement and get the number off there

TonyC

Thanks, I will ask him if he knows the number.

divecchia

<< <i>Thanks, I will ask him if he knows the number. >>



Here's a nice eBay link showing ONE nice photo with the serial number (987501) on the watch movement. If you scroll down the link he shows the info from the link I provided.

eBay link

Donato

TonyC

I just called him and he said that the two numbers (on the flip and inside the watch) match. ???