Sheet cut?

tsalems1 · January 5, 2012 11:16AM

Been looking at some o-pee-chee cards in BVG and BGS in high grade. They dont have the rough cuts and are very sharp! Most but not
all opc cards have the rough cuts but does BVG and BGS grade sheet cut cards (never had any before). I would be looking to get these
cards in PSA holders but know PSA doesnt grade sheet cut cards. Any help would be great, thnx!

ThoseBackPages · January 5, 2012 11:25AM

totally pass on them, imo.

tsalems1 · January 5, 2012 11:27AM

Does BVG and BGS grade sheet cut cards because these cards look great!

artistlost · January 5, 2012 11:28AM

Yes they do grade sheet cut and lots of them.

mathew

tsalems1 · January 5, 2012 11:38AM

<< Yes they do grade sheet cut and lots of them.

mathew >>

Thank you, im staying away from them

artistlost · January 5, 2012 11:49AM

The best way to tell a BGS/BVG O-pee-chee (baseball or hockey) sheet cut graded card is by the sub-grades. They will all be 10s or 9.5s but the surface. It will always be the lowest grade.

Side story...

Over 10 years ago, before I knew any better, I use to buy lots of high grade hockey cards from a seller Martin Sports Cards (the still sell on ebay). I use to go and meet the seller and pick up the cards in person. I asked one day how he gets the cards so perfect. His response, he buys sheets and cuts them. At one time he sold BGS and PSA...now only BGS and all 9.5s. I actually ran into him at the Toronto Hockey Card national (didn't talk to him though) this winter and his table was full of BGS/BVG 9.5 o-pee-chee baseball and hockey. Hundreds of them. He lives in a big fancy house on a hill and does very well for himself last I heard.

mathew

tsalems1 · January 5, 2012 11:52AM

Glad I asked now because Martin Sports had 1 of the items I was looking at.

Thank you Mathew!

Mapleleaf · February 15, 2013 10:18AM

<< The best way to tell a BGS/BVG O-pee-chee (baseball or hockey) sheet cut graded card is by the sub-grades. They will all be 10s or 9.5s but the surface. It will always be the lowest grade.

Side story...

Over 10 years ago, before I knew any better, I use to buy lots of high grade hockey cards from a seller Martin Sports Cards (the still sell on ebay). I use to go and meet the seller and pick up the cards in person. I asked one day how he gets the cards so perfect. His response, he buys sheets and cuts them. At one time he sold BGS and PSA...now only BGS and all 9.5s. I actually ran into him at the Toronto Hockey Card national (didn't talk to him though) this winter and his table was full of BGS/BVG 9.5 o-pee-chee baseball and hockey. Hundreds of them. He lives in a big fancy house on a hill and does very well for himself last I heard.

mathew >>

I noticed that Martin Sports is now selling mostly PSA slabbed cards.
They still advertise that they buy uncut sheets.

MrVintage · February 15, 2013 11:02AM

Yeah I once had an issue with a 1961 fleer football Jim Otto BVG 9.5 that turned out to be sheet cut.

aro13 · February 17, 2013 10:39AM

Martin Sports majority of cards for sale are still BGS. In addition to cutting sheets he does have plenty of wax boxes for sale. In my experience he is at least somewhat honest about cutting up the sheets and getting the cards holdered with high grades.

PSASAP · February 17, 2013 11:12AM

Here's an interesting question: If a dealer acquires an original cutting machine from OPC, and uses it to cut a sheet into individual cards, would the cards produced be considered legitimate?

vladguerrero · February 17, 2013 11:24AM

I'm actively going to remain passive in this thread.

PFB · February 20, 2013 10:33AM

If you ask Jason he will tell you if the card was a sheet cut. He's very honest and open. I have had numerous great purchases from him.

edmundfitzgerald · February 20, 2013 9:15PM

<< I'm actively going to remain passive in this thread. >>

Probably because the guy isn't the most ethical.

itzagoner · February 20, 2013 10:15PM

<< 

<< I'm actively going to remain passive in this thread. >>

Probably because the guy isn't the most ethical. >>

if you ever find the guy who is most ethical, i'll write a story about you.

Mapleleaf · February 21, 2013 8:21AM

<< Here's an interesting question: If a dealer acquires an original cutting machine from OPC, and uses it to cut a sheet into individual cards, would the cards produced be considered legitimate? >>

No, they would be modern era sheet cuts instead of original cards that survived the careless OPC workers, kids sticky fingers, bike tires and spring cleaning by frenetic mothers.

Then these modern sheet cuts, say 1970's including 80/81 would flood ebay and prices would drop just like they did with BGS. This is of course, theoretically speaking and it would happen because cards that didn't exist above an 8 or 9 naturally were now getting 10's and thus driving down demand for lower grades. Eventually, the 10's would go down in price as the numbers increased which would prove that the cards were not legitimate.

Sheet cut?

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