"the average federal employee earned $84,153 in 2014—roughly 50% more than the average worker in the private economy. When you include benefits like health care and pensions, the average federal worker’s compensation rises to $119,934—nearly 80% higher than everyone else. “The federal government has become an elite island of secure and high-paid employment,” Mr. Edwards wrote, “separated from the ocean of average Americans competing in the economy.”
The only way to make an economic system truly stable is to permit the free market to take over.
"the average federal employee earned $84,153 in 2014—roughly 50% more than the average worker in the private economy. When you include benefits like health care and pensions, the average federal worker’s compensation rises to $119,934—nearly 80% higher than everyone else. “The federal government has become an elite island of secure and high-paid employment,” Mr. Edwards wrote, “separated from the ocean of average Americans competing in the economy.”
But I thought all the jobs were part-time in restaurants and are all minimum wage?
But I thought all the jobs were part-time in restaurants and are all minimum wage?
What's interesting is that you probably know the data and have analyzed it enough to know exactly what derryb is saying, yet you keep obfuscating. I don't understand why you do this.
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Originally posted by: jmski52 But I thought all the jobs were part-time in restaurants and are all minimum wage?
What's interesting is that you probably know the data and have analyzed it enough to know exactly what derryb is saying, yet you keep obfuscating. I don't understand why you do this.
You guys birch and moan that the only jobs being created are low end restaurant jobs. Then you say the govt is creating all of high paying jobs. WTF?
All this started with me saying there are 500,000 more jobs available than 6 months ago.
You guys contradict yourselves at every turn. It's comical.
Originally posted by: jmski52 But I thought all the jobs were part-time in restaurants and are all minimum wage?
What's interesting is that you probably know the data and have analyzed it enough to know exactly what derryb is saying, yet you keep obfuscating. I don't understand why you do this.
You guys birch and moan that the only jobs being created are low end restaurant jobs. Then you say the govt is creating all of high paying jobs. WTF?
All this started with me saying there are 500,000 more jobs available than 6 months ago.
You guys contradict yourselves at every turn. It's comical.
Well, at least you are consistent.
The only way to make an economic system truly stable is to permit the free market to take over.
"The average federal worker’s compensation is worth $119,934, nearly 80% higher than the average in the private economy."
Unless the WSJ is distorting the facts as you choose to accuse them of doing, it appears government employment is without question a sweet gig. If you also choose to question my credibility because I simply poined out what the WSJ reported, so be it. Doing so, however, does not improve yours.
The only way to make an economic system truly stable is to permit the free market to take over.
Originally posted by: DrBuster There are always a half a mil more jobs this time of year. Seasonal employment is a bad number to base a perm argument on there coho.
My figure is as of the end of Sept. You should know by now that I am not one to exaggerate.
Originally posted by: cohodk Fact remains there are 5.5 million available jobs...a number that had been increasing for years.
How many are full time with benefits? How many pay better than the entitlements that come with not working?
So now benefits are an important topic? How come you never add benefits when saying how the average worker is making less now than "in the good old days"?
Originally posted by: derryb Bottom line according to the Wall Street Journal:
"The average federal worker’s compensation is worth $119,934, nearly 80% higher than the average in the private economy."
Unless the WSJ is distorting the facts as you choose to accuse them of doing, it appears government employment is without question a sweet gig. If you also choose to question my credibility because I simply poined out what the WSJ reported, so be it. Doing so, however, does not improve yours.
Yes derryb, govt workers probably do get paid too much, especially the exorbitant retirement benefits. Right?
Originally posted by: derryb Bottom line according to the Wall Street Journal:
"The average federal worker’s compensation is worth $119,934, nearly 80% higher than the average in the private economy."
Unless the WSJ is distorting the facts as you choose to accuse them of doing, it appears government employment is without question a sweet gig. If you also choose to question my credibility because I simply poined out what the WSJ reported, so be it. Doing so, however, does not improve yours.
Yes derryb, govt workers probably do get paid too much, especially the exorbitant retirement benefits. Right?
Like the WSJ said, the entire federal employee compensation package is 80% higher than that in the private sector. Retirement benefits are likely higher than the 80%.
The only way to make an economic system truly stable is to permit the free market to take over.
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And it's killing US exports/jobs. Look for intervention.
Dollar index at same level today as in March.
5 million job openings in March 2015.
5.5 million job openings today.
Only hyperbole being killed.
"Truth in Reporting" jobs data is being killed.
The best jobs now are within the government. Says everything you need to know about jobs.
The only way to make an economic system truly stable is to permit the free market to take over.
If you really think that's true, maybe it says everything we need to know about you
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
The best jobs now are within the government. Says everything you need to know about jobs.
Hope so. It says I do my homework while you don't.
WSJ: The Sweet Gig of Being a Bureaucrat
"the average federal employee earned $84,153 in 2014—roughly 50% more than the average worker in the private economy. When you include benefits like health care and pensions, the average federal worker’s compensation rises to $119,934—nearly 80% higher than everyone else. “The federal government has become an elite island of secure and high-paid employment,” Mr. Edwards wrote, “separated from the ocean of average Americans competing in the economy.”
The only way to make an economic system truly stable is to permit the free market to take over.
The best jobs now are within the government. Says everything you need to know about jobs.
Hope so. It says I do my homework while you don't.
WSJ: The Sweet Gig of Being a Bureaucrat
"the average federal employee earned $84,153 in 2014—roughly 50% more than the average worker in the private economy. When you include benefits like health care and pensions, the average federal worker’s compensation rises to $119,934—nearly 80% higher than everyone else. “The federal government has become an elite island of secure and high-paid employment,” Mr. Edwards wrote, “separated from the ocean of average Americans competing in the economy.”
But I thought all the jobs were part-time in restaurants and are all minimum wage?
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
What's interesting is that you probably know the data and have analyzed it enough to know exactly what derryb is saying, yet you keep obfuscating. I don't understand why you do this.
I knew it would happen.
But I thought all the jobs were part-time in restaurants and are all minimum wage?
What's interesting is that you probably know the data and have analyzed it enough to know exactly what derryb is saying, yet you keep obfuscating. I don't understand why you do this.
You guys birch and moan that the only jobs being created are low end restaurant jobs. Then you say the govt is creating all of high paying jobs. WTF?
All this started with me saying there are 500,000 more jobs available than 6 months ago.
You guys contradict yourselves at every turn. It's comical.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
But I thought all the jobs were part-time in restaurants and are all minimum wage?
What's interesting is that you probably know the data and have analyzed it enough to know exactly what derryb is saying, yet you keep obfuscating. I don't understand why you do this.
You guys birch and moan that the only jobs being created are low end restaurant jobs. Then you say the govt is creating all of high paying jobs. WTF?
All this started with me saying there are 500,000 more jobs available than 6 months ago.
You guys contradict yourselves at every turn. It's comical.
Well, at least you are consistent.
The only way to make an economic system truly stable is to permit the free market to take over.
The only way to make an economic system truly stable is to permit the free market to take over.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
Fact remains that "average" does not equal "best".
This is true. Dishwasher does not equal mega bank CEO. A couple of megabank CEO jobs does not mean everyone can have one.
On "average," research shows best jobs are now in government.
The only way to make an economic system truly stable is to permit the free market to take over.
Fact remains there are 5.5 million available jobs...a number that had been increasing for years.
How many are full time with benefits?
How many pay better than the entitlements that come with not working?
The only way to make an economic system truly stable is to permit the free market to take over.
"The average federal worker’s compensation is worth $119,934, nearly 80% higher than the average in the private economy."
Unless the WSJ is distorting the facts as you choose to accuse them of doing, it appears government employment is without question a sweet gig. If you also choose to question my credibility because I simply poined out what the WSJ reported, so be it. Doing so, however, does not improve yours.
The only way to make an economic system truly stable is to permit the free market to take over.
I'd get into a semantic discussion here, but it's not very fun, and "without question," not the "best" use of my time
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
There are always a half a mil more jobs this time of year. Seasonal employment is a bad number to base a perm argument on there coho.
My figure is as of the end of Sept.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
Fact remains there are 5.5 million available jobs...a number that had been increasing for years.
How many are full time with benefits?
How many pay better than the entitlements that come with not working?
So now benefits are an important topic? How come you never add benefits when saying how the average worker is making less now than "in the good old days"?
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
Bottom line according to the Wall Street Journal:
"The average federal worker’s compensation is worth $119,934, nearly 80% higher than the average in the private economy."
Unless the WSJ is distorting the facts as you choose to accuse them of doing, it appears government employment is without question a sweet gig. If you also choose to question my credibility because I simply poined out what the WSJ reported, so be it. Doing so, however, does not improve yours.
Yes derryb, govt workers probably do get paid too much, especially the exorbitant retirement benefits. Right?
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
Bottom line according to the Wall Street Journal:
"The average federal worker’s compensation is worth $119,934, nearly 80% higher than the average in the private economy."
Unless the WSJ is distorting the facts as you choose to accuse them of doing, it appears government employment is without question a sweet gig. If you also choose to question my credibility because I simply poined out what the WSJ reported, so be it. Doing so, however, does not improve yours.
Yes derryb, govt workers probably do get paid too much, especially the exorbitant retirement benefits. Right?
Like the WSJ said, the entire federal employee compensation package is 80% higher than that in the private sector. Retirement benefits are likely higher than the 80%.
The only way to make an economic system truly stable is to permit the free market to take over.