Stolen Photos from David Lawrence

Wolf359

.... Actual coin is pictured and this is the rarest morgan in the series. I have not come across many of these and this is your chance to finish a set or own a rare coin. I bought this in an estate sale

Liar!

Auction with Proof Morgan

Auction with Hot Lips

LeeBone

Reported

X2

MilkmanDan

Just for my info, what did the seller do wrong? Was it that they used pictures form DL's auction archive? What if they had purchased the coin from DL auction and were just using the photos, would that be ok? I'm asking because occasionally I will sell a coin I bought at Heritage and they take really nice pictures.

Edit: I do realize that the 85-S isn't a key date like he says, and that the pictured coin is actually a proof. I'm just curious if it is not ok to use an auction websites pictures, if you do actually own the coin.

Thanks.

Wolf359

Come on Dan, he says he bought them at an estate sale and they are in plastic bags.

Besides which, David Lawrence shows the coins are still for sale and are not in plastic bags.

1885 Proof Morgan

Hot Lips

lkeigwin

We'll get them shut down.

To answer your question, Dan, no, it is not okay to use the images without permission.
Lance.

Coyn

I think "actual coin is pictured" would indicate an issue when the coin in the picture is worth thousands and yours is starting at 31 bucks.

MilkmanDan

Ok sure. To be clear, it's obvious this person's auction is shady. On the other hand, I don't think that legitimate auctions should be shut down based on assumptions. I was only asking to make sure I don't run afoul of the ebay police here ;-)

Seriously though, it wasn't clear to me that I couldn't use HA's pics in my auction. I own the coin, but I see the argument that it doesn't entitle me to own a picture of the coin, or use the picture for another sale. I can't find it spelled out anywhere on their site, and they don't put a watermark or anything like that on their pictures. Maybe it's just common sense, and I don't have enough of it.

magikbilly

The rights to reproduce or use those photographs reside with whoever took them and/or whoever may have purchased them from the photographer. Those images are the copyrighted property of the photographer the moment he snapped the shutter, no notice necessary.

Eric

LindeDad

KerBOOM it's gone....

MilkmanDan

<< <i>The rights to reproduce or use those photographs reside with whoever took them and/or whoever may have purchased them from the photographer. Those images are the copyrighted property of the photographer the moment he snapped the shutter, no notice necessary.
>>



Fair enough.

magikbilly

"Maybe it's just common sense, and I don't have enough of it."

Nonsense, that might only apply if you did not ask the question!

Happy New Year!
Eric

Manorcourtman

Anyone remember the sellers handle? I track this stuff.......

MilkmanDan

<< <i>"Maybe it's just common sense, and I don't have enough of it."

Nonsense, that might only apply if you did not ask the question!

Happy New Year!
Eric >>



Thanks Eric. I try to be an honest person and live my life the right way. For some reason I had assumed that ownership of a coin meant ownership of pictures of that coin. Comments here made me think otherwise so I wanted to clear it up. It looks like you're in a business involved with coin photography, so thank you for your input.

DorkGirl

Nice detective work!!

coindeuce

<< <i>The rights to reproduce or use those photographs reside with whoever took them and/or whoever may have purchased them from the photographer. Those images are the copyrighted property of the photographer the moment he snapped the shutter, no notice necessary.

Eric >>



...Unless posted here by the source, in which case they can be reproduced ad lib by Coin Universe as part of the agreement members make when they register to participate here. Terms of Use, paragraph 8:

SUBMISSIONS

"Any information, comments, ideas, graphics or other materials submitted by you to CU through the Site may be used or published by CU for any purpose, in any media, throughout the world and in perpetuity and without restriction or compensation or attribution to you. For additional terms and guidelines relating to the use of our message boards, please see our message board Terms of Use."

ctf_error_coins

Photographers own the rights to images they produce.

To use a photographers work without permission is just plain stealing .........

magikbilly

<< <i>

<< <i>The rights to reproduce or use those photographs reside with whoever took them and/or whoever may have purchased them from the photographer. Those images are the copyrighted property of the photographer the moment he snapped the shutter, no notice necessary.

Eric >>



...Unless posted here by the source, in which case they can be reproduced ad lib by Coin Universe as part of the agreement members make when they register to participate here. >>




ABSOLUTELY! This is why I do not post images from my collections to ocean liner sites or other areas of interest.

MilkmanDan

I just found the part of the Heritage user agreement that states you can only use content from their site for personal use. I would post the pertinent section of the agreement here, but that would violate sed agreement. Instead I'll follow the rules and post a link:

Heritage link

Sorry for taking this thread off topic, but the original intent of the thread had run its course.

johnny9434

well it went poof so its a good thing