1933 Goudey Baseball Cards: Ruth, Gehrig, Foxx, & Ott - Are these Legit or Fakes? - Scan Heavy -

I have come across a seller looking to unload some 1933 Goudey baseball cards. There are 75 total in the lot, but mostly commons. However, he does have a few "eye openers." I have used all the resources I could find on the web to determine if these are real or counterfeits. Based on the ink red bleed-through from the "gum" banner and misalignment of the banner, I think these are good. However, I am not the greatest on this sort of thing and I am seeking support from the forum here. I have posted some high res scans below. For those who have a history purchasing raw cards of this caliber, please chime in on their likely legitimacy. Thank you. Meatloaf







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The wear seems appropriate and the missing piece on the Gehrig shows what the paper should look like underneath the surface.
Another dead give away for the Ruth is the # on the back. The card is mis cut and has Jimmie Foxx's number on the back of the card at the bottom. The actual # 144 for the Babe is missing. This would be the correct positioning as well as the Foxx was just below Ruth on the sheet before they were cut.
Second, just as an aside, a forum member PMed me and said to post the scans on the net54 forums because there are a ton of pre-war card collectors there that would have experienced opinions. I did this and they share the CU forum assessments. TY for this advice.
Finally, I have a follow up question. As a modern collector, I have used PSA and BGS for my card grading needs. I went to PSA a lot because I used to get great rates for bulk orders (1000+ cards submitted at once for grading). For BGS, I went to them anytime I needed a thick relic card graded because I hate the PSA oversized holders for large relics. Anyway, I have heard SGC may be the best company for grading when dealing with pre-war cards in order to max long term value. So…
-What are your opinions here on this issue?
-What company would you recommend for grading if the goal is to max out long term value (specifically for the pre-war cards in these scans)?
Thank you again.
Meatloaf
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Good luck.
Dave
PM me if you end up getting them and want to sell the Foxx. Congrats on the nice cards.
<< <i>What a wonderful lot of cards! That particular Ruth is my all time favorite. One notable thing about that Ruth...as someone previously stated about the wet transfer...take a good look at the card reverse...someone handling a wet sheet has left a fingerprint on the back of the Ruth card from wet sheet handling. Absolutely love it! >>
Wow, did not see that until now. Old School, baby. They don't make them like the used to. Thanks to the overs on the wet transfer info. Meatloaf
All of the tell-tale signs of being legit are there and the tell-tale hints of counterfeits are absent. That's always a good thing. Good luck with the purchase.
very easy to authenticate with the nice large scans and card wear
collector grade ie PSA1-PSA3
the Ruth is cool, Ive never seen a R319 back that OC (not common within R319), Id actually price it the same as if it has a normal back (ie a small premium that would = out the value loss of a OC back)
hopefully you didnt miss the boat as I see he has now put them up for auction, and hopefully someone on these boards doesnt shark you on them
good luck, nice cards
PS please dont call it "Bleed Through" its not, as that would be obviously impossible, the correct term is "Wet Sheet Transfer" ... the ink residue on back of most R319 cards is from the sheets being stacked before the ink had dried completely, leaving a imprint on the back from the sheet directly below.