What do you do when Ebay seller won't actually sell the item?

First time this has ever happened to me on Ebay. I win an auction for a card I've been wanting for some time. Auction ends maybe 30-40% lower than one of these cards typically does. Immediately after the auction I get a "Canceling purchase request" from Ebay from the seller. Seller did not even specify a reason, so I'm assuming it's because he didn't get the price he wanted.
This happen to anyone else before? How did you handle it? By the way, the seller has 400+ positive feedback and no negs.
This happen to anyone else before? How did you handle it? By the way, the seller has 400+ positive feedback and no negs.
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It's also time for his first neg so others can view his practice.
<< <i>By the way, the seller has 400+ positive feedback and no negs. >>
Guess what - he should get a neg now. Sometimes sellers sell cards for less than they want. I sold a 1933 Sport Kings card with an SMR and a VCP of $100 for $30. Was I happy it sold that low - hell no! The card got shipped though and the buyer got a fantastic deal! He can't help but make money on the card if he wants to flip it as soon as he gets it! The seller should honor the sell. If he doesn't, I would neg him, and never deal with him again. There are too many sellers on Ebay giving away product to mess with a seller who won't ship.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I try to give the seller the benefit of the doubt if at all possible, but in this case I guess you gotta neg him.
-CDs Nuts, 1/20/14
*1956 Topps baseball- 97.4% complete, 7.24 GPA
*Clemente basic set: 85.0% complete, 7.89 GPA
I've asked him to send me a pic of the card in it's current state as I may still be interested in purchasing. 10 to 1 says I don't ever see a pic...
<< <i>I asked him what was up, here is his reply: "I put a note in the notice that the card fell offy my dresser and cracked the case last night I wanted to end it earlier but was busy at work I apologize".
I've asked him to send me a pic of the card in it's current state as I may still be interested in purchasing. 10 to 1 says I don't ever see a pic... >>
Aaaaaaaand there's the lie. Better late than never.
-CDs Nuts, 1/20/14
*1956 Topps baseball- 97.4% complete, 7.24 GPA
*Clemente basic set: 85.0% complete, 7.89 GPA
btw - what item was it and whos the seller so we can block this possible d-bag if you were correct.
Here's his reply to this picture request: "i don't have a picture of it as the case is cracked and there are particles in the plastic on the card. the card is going to have to be kept raw if i can crack the case without hurting the card. i am really sorry about this and i did try to end it ealier but with my commute and work schduel it is though. if i every come across one again i will email you for sure. there are always a couple of these on ebay they are not to hard to find.
if you can accept the cancelation so i can atleast get my seller fees back now that i am out of the card i would apperciate it ."
<< <i>if you can accept the cancelation so i can atleast get my seller fees back now that i am out of the card i would apperciate it ." >>
No. Decline the cancellation and neg the seller.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>"i don't have a picture of it as the case is cracked and there are particles in the plastic on the card. >>
Now that's funny, this is exactly why these sort of threads are never redundant.
Each and every one of them are unique in their own right.
I'm sure you've thought of this already, but now you need to indicate your interest in the raw card and ask for a good scan of it. Tell him you were planning to crack it out anyway for a raw set so it's no big deal to you. Might as well have him throw in a pic of the damaged slab while you're at it.
You know you aren't ever going to do business with this guy, so have some fun before you drop your neg on him.
-CDs Nuts, 1/20/14
*1956 Topps baseball- 97.4% complete, 7.24 GPA
*Clemente basic set: 85.0% complete, 7.89 GPA
"i apperciate you trying to work something out with me but i listed it as a psa 9 and with the case cracked now and potential damage to the card, due to some patricales in the case i am not in a position to sell the card the way it is.
i dont want to send it out raw after i atempt to crack the case at a later time for anyone to be disapointed in the condition because it is not going to be in 9 condition. once again this was a freak accident. i have been on ebay a long time with no issues as you can see from my feedback. if i get another one i will emai youl; otherwise i see about 5-6 on ebay at any time. i apperciate you trying to work something out and do hope you find one.
i would appperciate the help with the cancelation so i am not out the seller fees. trust me you will NEVER see this card on ebay or for sale again."
<< <i>How did you handle it? >>
FUGGHEDABOUDIT!
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
I think that's fair enough since he won't send you a scan....we know it's all BS, but might as well make him sweat more.
I also would NOT message him and say anything regarding feedback.
<< <i>...is there ANY way he's telling the truth? >>
No. No, there is not.
If it were me, I would send him back the following message:
"I will agree to cancel the transaction on one condition, and one condition only: Admit to me that you are lying. Right here, right now, no more stories. The card is just fine, you didn't like the price you got at auction, so you're going to keep it.
You do that, we can act like nothing ever happened."
-CDs Nuts, 1/20/14
*1956 Topps baseball- 97.4% complete, 7.24 GPA
*Clemente basic set: 85.0% complete, 7.89 GPA
"I will agree to cancel the transaction on one condition, and one condition only: Admit to me that you are lying. Right here, right now, no more stories. The card is just fine, you didn't like the price you got at auction, so you're going to keep it.
You do that, we can act like nothing ever happened."
I like it!
And then when he writes back and doesn't include the picture - don't even bother replying. Leave him a negative and block him from even contacting you and be done with it. Your obviously not gonna get the card at this point. Just do it.
WinPitcher, may I ask what you mean by not leaving feedback until the process is completed? Any reason to not leave the neg at this point?
<< <i>I'm getting close on the neg. I just don't want to let him off the hook so easily. Usually I'll just forget about something like this and move on quickly, but I'm particularly annoyed this time. I just told him to send the pic and then I'll cancel the transaction. Seller fees are nominal, the card sold for under $100. >>
Letting him off the hook? lol. Do you think you're going to actually get him to admit he's lying to you? That won't happen, so why waste your time trying?
Neg'ing him and making him eat the FVF fees is the best form of punishment for this case.
<< <i>WinPitcher, may I ask what you mean by not leaving feedback until the process is completed? Any reason to not leave the neg at this point? >>
Steve just likes to take his time. He likes to wait until date #10 before moving on to second base.
Well what I meant was that way you can play it out, once you leave the neg
all options are closed at that point. I mean what's 10 days? And I again state
under no circumstances are you to say anything about leaving feedback in
your ebay emails to him.
I wouldn't even bother responding to him anymore.
I'd respond to his cancellation request with a 'denied'
and where I am allowed to say something I'd say it there.
Something along the lines of: I request seller to honor transaction.
No need to make claims that you really can't prove. For all anyone knows
the guy is telling the truth. (I know it's far fetched) but possible.
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<< <i>I asked him what was up, here is his reply: "I put a note in the notice that the card fell offy my dresser and cracked the case last night I wanted to end it earlier but was busy at work I apologize".
I've asked him to send me a pic of the card in it's current state as I may still be interested in purchasing. 10 to 1 says I don't ever see a pic... >>
Aaaaaaaand there's the lie. Better late than never. >>
haha
adding.... am I wrong? Am I wrong?
Email the seller and ask him that you're interested in buying the card
for $150 but you had to work late and didn't get a chance to bid.
I bet you the slab will magically repair itself.
<< <i>I dont have the time nor my camera at my house >>
It's being used by his wife, Morgan Fairchild.
For my enjoyment, this was the best part of his listing: "PAYMENT DUE WITHIN 7 DAYS! NO EXPECTION!"
Aye Aye, Cap'n.
EDIT: Make sure to give him all 1 stars also. Put that he clearly refused to sell item due to low amount it ended for in the neg. You will be shocked at how often a turd like this will try to then work with you after the fact to get ya to change that neg and bad stars to a positive and good stars. I better see a neg by the time I wake up sir.
If you don't want to tie your money up, I would request his contact info through eBay and call him to give him a hard time, then leave the scathing negative.
<< <i> I am sending a message asking if he has anymore of the Mattinglys for possible sale in an off eBay transaction. >>
Brilliant.
I would have believed him if he said his dog ate the card, but the 1952 Topps Mantle PSA 10 was unharmed.
Dave
<< <i>i am absolutely shocked to learn that the seller did NOT include the pretext of a dead grandmother blocking his path to the dresser, thereby causing him to trip and drop the aforementioned slab and resulting in the damage as he so claimed. >>
That's silly. If there was a dead grandmother, then the card would have hit her on the way to the floor and not cracked. Sheesh.....
bobsbbcards SGC Registry Sets
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<< <i>i am absolutely shocked to learn that the seller did NOT include the pretext of a dead grandmother blocking his path to the dresser, thereby causing him to trip and drop the aforementioned slab and resulting in the damage as he so claimed. >>
That's silly. If there was a dead grandmother, then the card would have hit her on the way to the floor and not cracked. Sheesh..... >>
ok. i'll give you that. perhaps further investigation would be required. i mean, if the coroner could pinpoint the exact TOD, it's entirely possible grandma was still barely alive before the slab hit her and finished the job.
in that case, the card would need to be detained as EVIDENCE of a potentially harmful act and it won't be seen again until it's introduced as Exhibit A at the trial.
James
Completed Auctions
<< <i>I went to leave the negative feedback, but it appears I have to pay for the auction before I can leave feedback...is that the case? >>
Probably, you can't leave a negative if you don't pay.
Just pay, and file a claim when you can. If a refund is issued, issue a Negative Feedback.
If the card does arrive, leave a Neutral at best for the lies.
Dave
<< <i>If you don't care about tying your money up for a few weeks, I would pay him for the item. When he doesn't send it, open an "item not received" case; this is more damaging than a negative, as sellers can only have a few cases opened against them in a year's time before their account starts getting limited. Additionally, once eBay decides in your favor and gives you your money back, it will be on his file that he didn't send an item, so that if someone else has a problem with him later, the eBay CS monkey will see that he's done this before. I would also give him a scathing negative.
If you don't want to tie your money up, I would request his contact info through eBay and call him to give him a hard time, then leave the scathing negative. >>
The problem with doing this allows the shade seller to send a bogus card in the mail to prove to ebay he mailed something.
The buyer would have trouble winning his claim.
I wonder if this card would've sold for 3x's the normal price, if this falling off the dresser mishap would have occurred?
Yeah, seven photos in the auction, yet be won't even bother to locate his camera and take one more to prove his point....
seems........ deceitful.
I would rarely drill a seller with a neg., but in this case I would make an exception unless he can prove his cracked case theory.