Home› U.S. Coin Forum
Options

Why do you collect Jeffersons....?

OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
Well back in 1971 or so A friend of mine and myself walked into this coin shop in
Canoga Park, CA, they had a Bidboard and we coughed up the dollar to join and
Billy and myself decided on the Jefferson Nickel series, we were both 12 years old
at the time, within a years time we both had completed the whitman 9009 1938 to
1961, most of it from pocket change and milk money, the 38, 39 s & d's some of
the war nicks and the 50 d were purchased via the bidboard.

From then on it was an up & down cycle of upgrade & downgrade for the next 40
years, for me at least, I bought BU rolls and continued to attend numerous bidboards
throughout the San Fernando Valley, I bought and sold Jeffies and searched for full
steps and pretty nickels, my family and friends thought I was crazy.

Closing nights at Bidboards were interesting, many times they were shoulder to shoulder
with 100 people in a 400 square foot area, and some bidders would ask what I collected
and I'd say "Jefferson Nickels", Only to have them excuse themselfs and get away from
me like I had the plagueimage.

I remember when Teletrade was just that, over the telephone and they would send a
pennysaver type catolog every couple weeks, and when PCGS started designating
Full Step Jeffersons, Jeffersons finally recieved there due respect.

But why do I collect Jeffersons?

Because I love shiny Nickelsimage

Steve
Promote the Hobby

Comments

  • Options
    mingotmingot Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭
    I was 19 years old, liked coins, liked coins in nice condition and was as broke as you can imagine.

    It seemed like a reasonable and inexpensive series to collect with very few expensive keys, but also a series that had been around long enough that there were a lot of coins to buy.

  • Options
    jhdflajhdfla Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭
    Most of us had our start when we were younger by being able to pull coins out of pocket change and put them into Whitman folders. Sadly, there isn't much to be had by kids these days in the way of coins out of pocket change. Virtually all the silver has been pulled, and now even wheat cents are uncommon. The only series that still has the potential to be collected by date and mint mark in it's entirety is the Jefferson Nickel. I don't really collect them, but I still look at my change and there are still some of the early dates left floating around. I even found a '50-D about a year ago, which I never could find as a kid..
  • Options
    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Because they are under rated! One day folks will catch on and admire a Jefferson Nickel for what it is!
  • Options
    drei3reedrei3ree Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭✭
    In the 60's I was fascinated by the "rarity" of the 1950-d, but I was hooked when I found a War nickel in my change ~1971.
  • Options


    << <i>Because they are under rated! One day folks will catch on and admire a Jefferson Nickel for what it is! >>



    What, you mean the last remnant of sound money still in circulation image?

    I don't collect Jeffersons, but at some point I plan on busting open all my nickel boxes and building the best set possible at face value that I can image. I suppose that's how more than a few of you got started on them image.
  • Options
    This is soooooo true. I ran a coin shop 1985-1993. Nobody wanted Jefferson Nickels. Meanwhile, I salted away rolls and rolls. Many people poked fun at the idiocy of such a thing...Too bulky /they'll never be worth anything. In the process, I have accumulated many original rolls some of which I still have. .....and put together two monster sets.........one toned / one brilliant. I even had one customer who sold me over 100 rolls in a lot which ranged from 1947 to 1962. In that group was a mislabeled 59-D. you guessed it.......it was a gorgeous roll of 39-D's. We have been fooled by the investment potential of past nickel series...V nickels especially. Several years ago the Buffalo series caught fire. So will Jeffersons......in due time .
  • Options
    MercfanMercfan Posts: 701 ✭✭
    Short answer: For the fun of it.

    Longer answer: Because in the early sixties I bought a Whitman bookself album for Jeffersons and started filling it from pocket change (Eastern pocket change).

    After decades of ignoring the album, I pulled it out and noticed how easy it would be to upgrade many of the coins in it--and refresh my skills at grading Jefferson nickels. I've paid $0 to $9.00 three or four times in the past two years buying mostly complete Jefferson nickel folders from local shows or bullion dealers, and I've been able to upgrade most of the 1938 to 1964 coins to XF and better.

    It's been fun, and at the ridiculous prices (all of my purchases included more value in the war nickels they contained than I paid for the entire folders), it's almost like upgrading from fifty-year-old pocket change loaded with luster.

    (Not a lot of full steps pieces, however.)

    image
    "Coin collecting problem"? What "coin collecting problem"?
  • Options
    mirabelamirabela Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ... because there are still outrageously nice coins available for peanuts raw, if you beat the bushes to find them.

    It's a series where the cream has not all risen to the top yet. An ordinary guy with an eye for quality can still build a wonderful set, with some time and dedication.

    mirabela
  • Options
    Methuselah & I spanked Jefferson when he was born, and it just kind of carried on from there image
    image

    Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
  • This content has been removed.
  • Options
    Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thats right love the coin. But i was at the Ontario show and alot of Jefferson books where wiped out the sellers said alot of collectors where buying them. image


    Hoard the keys.
  • Options
    lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 45,389 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Why do you collect Jeffersons....? >>

    I don't, but the thought of doing a Whitman folder full of 'em from circulation has had some appeal for me over the years. I was a bank roll searcher for a long time and I still pluck out any pre-1960 coin I see in change, for some reason.

    Jeffies for a long time (and maybe still) were the final frontier of old stuff in circulation. The proportion of Wheaties to Memorials long ago became so minuscule as to not make it worth roll searching, but I've often found old Jeffies, including many war nickels.

    Funny, though- I can't recall if I ever actually attempted the folder thing. I might yet give it a go. I don't expect to find ALL the war nickels, or the '50-D, but it might be fun to see how far I can get. And certainly won't break the bank.

    Mine won't be shiny beauties if I take up a Jefferson set, but they'll only cost me a nickel each. As I did with my Statehood quarter experiment, I would ONLY collect them from circulation- no purchasing or trading allowed!

    Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.

  • Options
    cladkingcladking Posts: 30,337 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeffersons are neat.

    Their greatest strenght is that they are available and their biggest weakness is that fully struck gems are so difficult.

    These coins have been taken for granted for a very long time and this will eventually prove to be an asset as well.

    If they were clad they'd be well nigh perfect. image I'll settle for great any day though.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • Options
    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 12,177 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm an incidental collector.....a dealer friend of mine had been acquiring items from the heirs of an old estate.
    I got first shot at the large cents, and after completing an >$7k transaction, he pulled out this ancient National Coin Album
    of Jeff Nickels and asked if I was interested. The set was complete from 38 to 54, all choice uncs with some nice toners.
    Still being a little skeptical, I asked how much.....he said $60. I figured the '39D and war nicks were worth that much,
    so I threw on the pile image
    Successful BST transactions with 177 members. breakdown, scotty1419, mattniss, bigjpst, onlyroosies, Manorcourtman, guitarwes, Ebeneezer, Tonedeaf, Shane6596, Piano1, Ikenefic, RG, PCGSPhoto, stman, Don'tTelltheWife, Boosibri, Ron1968, snowequities, VTchaser, jrt103, SurfinxHI, 78saen, bp777, FHC, RYK, JTHawaii, Opportunity, Kliao, bigtime36, skanderbeg, split37, thebigeng, acloco, Toninginthblood, OKCC, braddick, Coinflip, robcool, fastfreddie, tightbudget, DBSTrader2, nickelsciolist, relaxn, Eagle eye, soldi, silverman68, ElKevvo, sawyerjosh, Schmitz7, talkingwalnut2, konsole, sharkman987, sniocsu, comma, jesbroken, David1234, biosolar, Sullykerry, Moldnut, erwindoc, MichaelDixon, GotTheBug
  • Options
    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't collect Jeff's, but if I ever go off in another direction as a side project from dimes I think the early Jefferson's would be neat.

    I would probably do high grade with pretty colors and not worry about steps. Those steps are like bands on Mercury's....very expensive!
  • Options
    MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,618 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't...but I did when I was a kid. My mom owned a restaurant and I would go through the change drawer every evening looking for Jeffersons and other cool coins I could get from circulation.
  • Options
    erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,454 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like to roll search for them. I have several full sets of jeffersons I have put together from circulation. They are much easier to search than Lincolns. I frequently find buffalos too.
  • Options
    toyz4geotoyz4geo Posts: 1,506 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I didn't, but I think I do now. I bought a partial Dansco, 38to about 2001 or so. The keys, silver and later proofs had been removed. What was left (BU I might mention) I got for $20. I have picked up everything except the 39-S in BU so I really have a minimal investment. Now I find myself trying to put together a set of PCGS FS War Nicks. I never was interested in them so much....but now....

    Successful transactions with: JimTyler, Morgan13, ChangeInHistory, LukeMarshall, Old_Collector, basets , MICHAELDIXON, Waverlycoins, dsessom, privatecoin, SurfinxHI, ZoidMeister, giorgioll, Lakesammman, Twobitcollector, Cazkaboom, Dscoin, Shrub68, CoinHunter4, Cladiator, coinbuf, Elkevvo, ChrisH82, WindyCity, Kccoin, NumisOxide, Meltdown, blaircountycoin, blue62vette, greencopper, Kliao, Downtown1974, BankerBob56, coinlieutenant, cucamongacoin, FranklinFactory, scooter25, erwindoc, bigjpst, and others.

  • Options
    DRUNNERDRUNNER Posts: 3,947 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have worked on these for years and had a riot. A toned set in a Library of Coins album . .a regular Dansco that has been ripped apart and rebuilt after several Jeff specialists looked at it . .and many individual fun coins I take with me to sell on the rare occasion that I set up at a show. I always get a lot of response even though major dealers think I'm nuts. Not much dealer profit potential in these, and you usually have to go to the back tables at Long Beach or FUN . . but they are a fun starter collection, a nice coin to buy while treading water looking for a key date in a killer series, and like it says above . . . . . maybe someday???

    Drunner
  • Options
    lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 45,389 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That does it. I'm gonna get me some cheap Whitman folders and start a "pocket change" set from circulation. And ONLY from circulation. No purchases, trades, or gifts. Just what I get from pocket change or bank rolls. I can cherrypick the till on slow nights at work. That's how I filled up a Statehood quarter folder in about six months between January and June of '09. (Not a full P&D set, but a 50-piece type set).

    Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.

  • Options
    droopyddroopyd Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm gonna get me some cheap Whitman folders and start a "pocket change" set from circulation. >>



    I think this would be a wise choice for anyone contemplating getting into coin collecting on a minimal budget (especially kids).
    Me at the Springfield coin show:
    image
    60 years into this hobby and I'm still working on my Lincoln set!
  • Options
    You might as well ask why someone prefers a Ford over a Chevrolet. It's an acquired taste. Why do I like Classic commems, SMS coins from 65, 66, and 67 just to mention a couple of sets. We tend to collect what we like or can afford.

    Ron
    Collect for the love of the hobby, the beauty of the coins, and enjoy the ride.
  • Options
    Lehigh96Lehigh96 Posts: 685 ✭✭✭
    I collected coins as a kid like most adult collectors. In the late 90's I returned to coin collecting and started collecting blast white full band Mercury Dimes. In 2002, I encountered a rainbow toned Morgan Dollar in a Heritage sale and I was hooked. For the next five years, I bought every rainbow toned coin I could get my hands on. Unfortunately, my collection had no direction at all. I was basically a rainbow toned coin junkie. I tried starting a rainbow toned Morgan Dollar collection but quickly found that other than the common dates, most were out of my price range.

    So one day I was scouring the Anaconda website and I found a gorgeous toned Appalachian Jefferson Nickel. I had no idea that nickels could tone so incredibly. I quickly purchased the Appalachian Jefferson along with two others that were part of Gregg Bingham's collection at one time. And this is the coin that was the inspiration for my NGC Jefferson Nickel registry collection.

    image

    Well that one coin spawned my war nickel set which eventually became this:

    image

    Once I maxed out my war nickels, I turned to the remainder of the series and the chase was on. I now have the 4th ranked set on NGC registry and I am always looking for coins to add to my collection. The early years are looking pretty good at this point.

    image

    My feelings about the Jefferson Nickel series can best be summarized by the introduction of my registry collection shown below.

    The Jefferson Nickel series is one of the most diverse in all of United States coins. It is possible to assemble an album collection from searching circulated change at a minimum of expense all the way up to a $100K+ collection of top pop full step certified coins. Different collectors covet different aspects of coin collecting including but not limited to: price, rarity, strike, grade, toning & eye appeal, as well as errors & varieties. The Jefferson Nickel series incorporates all of these and really does appeal to everyone. There is a full step designation for the strike conscious collector, a multitude of doubled dies and RPM’s for the variety collector, and many fantastically patinated examples for the toning enthusiast.

    I am a collector who covets eye appeal first and foremost. Without eye appeal coins become generic in my eyes. While an untoned coin can still display a measure of eye appeal based on strike and luster it just can’t approach the unique appearance that a rainbow toned coin can offer. Having said that, toning is not the end of eye appeal, rather it is just the beginning. Without luster, the colorful toning loses the vibrancy that yields the eye popping appearance.

    Registry sets are typically all about grade, the number on the plastic, and points, the number on the screen. The majority of the registry participants simply list their coins in the appropriate slot never bothering to photograph or describe their coins. There is no doubt that the highest grade should be rewarded, but just as toning is only the start to eye appeal; grade is only the start to a great coin or collection. A great collection must have it all. Each coin should be superlative in one way or another, whether it is a top pop with blazing luster, a monster toner with undeniable eye appeal, or a hammered strike on a normally weakly struck issue, it must be special. Regardless of what attributes make the coin special, a number can never describe a great coin. I wouldn’t even know how to evaluate a collection without photos & descriptions.

    My goal is to assemble the finest collection of Jefferson Nickels. The collection might not have the highest grades, the most points, or cost the most money, but when viewed it will leave the observer in awe. I want the other top ranking competitors to fear my collection, novice collectors to envy it, and Jefferson haters to respect it. This can only be accomplished by selecting each coin with an unrelenting focus on overall quality.



    The Atlantic City Set of Jefferson Nickels 1938-1964
    <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://stores.ebay.com/Lehigh-Coins">LEHIGH COINS on E-Bay
  • Options
    When you're a kid, you start with Lincoln cents in your Whitman folder, then you graduate to Jefferson nickels soon thereafter. To me, Jeffersons don't look like much when they're well worn, but a sharply struck high MS example is a really fine looking coin.
    Let's try not to get upset.
  • Options
    Wow Lehigh some great nickels there! In NGC holders too. image
  • Options
    I started collecting Jefferson's in the mid 70s after a Coinage article stated it was the impossible set to complete in full steps. I took that challenge then and quite honestly it is the same reason I still collect only Jefferson's.
    (The Corso Collection) Always looking for high quality proof and full step Jeffersons - email me with details

    My Jefferson Full Step Variety Set (1938 - Current)

    My Jefferson Proof Variety Set (1938 - Current)
  • Options
    OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey, welcome back here, and how is the MANimage

    Steve
    Promote the Hobby
  • Options
    OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lehigh, as usual you've taken my breath awayimage

    Steve
    Promote the Hobby
  • Options
    fiveNdimefiveNdime Posts: 1,088 ✭✭
    ...becuase they are twice the size of a dime and half the value.



    << <i>start a "pocket change" set from circulation. And ONLY from circulation. No purchases, trades, or gifts. Just what I get from pocket change or bank rolls. >>


    no gifts or wooden nickel trades for you! image


    a few years ago my dad gave me a half-complete, tore up album he got at a swap meet for face value, still had some of the silver nickels,. image

    once we get his 2 slot machinces re keyed, ill get to search all those.
    i can see some buffalos in the 'jackpot' too.

    it is now ~80% complete, all obtained @ face value.
    BST transactions: guitarwes; glmmcowan; coiny; nibanny; messydesk
  • Options
    BigDowgieBigDowgie Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭✭
    I probably had a similar start into coin collecting as most, Whitman Folder sets from circulation. Over the years, going in and out of collecting, I started into upgrading all the circulated sets with BUs. Over the years came to a point that I told myself, "I will never have a nice complete set of anything if I keep collecting everything". In the early 80's, as I was trying to buy a nice 1939-D for my Jefferson Set, an older-wiser dealer asked if my set had full steps. I look at him and said...what? This dealer gave me an education and from that point on it was Full Step Jeffersons. I can look back and say I wish I had not sold some of the coins I assembled, but if I had not, I wouldn't have some of the Jeffersons I have today.

    That's been a long time ago and it is still fun!
  • Options
    PCcoinsPCcoins Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭
    <-------------
    "It is what it is."
  • Options
    In all honesty 3 things

    1-I was looking for something new
    2-Matt had a few high grade ones for sale, one being from the Corso collection
    3-bernards book. hands down must read. "The Jefferson Nickle Analyst"
    image

    Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
  • Options
    cladkingcladking Posts: 30,337 ✭✭✭✭✭
    OK, let me put it this way then; I started with buffalo nickels and they were pretty much gone by 1963. The
    '50-D nickel was something that could be found in change and I actually did in 1964. Even the oldest Jeffer-
    sons still have an easily readable date even though they are 73 years old now. In 1963 the oldest buffalos
    were a mere 50 years old but almost nothing more than 37 years old still had a date. So the old Jeffersons
    are now twice as old as the old buffalos were when I was finishing my collection.

    Today's nickels have a lot of character. Many of them have damage because they don't circulate the same way
    the older nickels did. They accummulate marks faster than they wear out. They ever suffer attrition faster than
    they wear out. By the time one can get to G condition it simply won't exist at all any longer. But it's more chal-
    lenging to find a nice high grade 1973 nickel today than it was to find any typical date buff. And better still, it's
    actually possible to find a nice AU '73 nickel where it wasn't really possible to find anything outstanding in buffs
    because collectors scoured the coins starting way back in WW II.

    I really like gems and nickels are tough tough tough.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • Options


    << <i>OK, let me put it this way then; I started with buffalo nickels and they were pretty much gone by 1963. The
    '50-D nickel was something that could be found in change and I actually did in 1964. Even the oldest Jeffer-
    sons still have an easily readable date even though they are 73 years old now. In 1963 the oldest buffalos
    were a mere 50 years old but almost nothing more than 37 years old still had a date. So the old Jeffersons
    are now twice as old as the old buffalos were when I was finishing my collection.

    Today's nickels have a lot of character. Many of them have damage because they don't circulate the same way
    the older nickels did. They accummulate marks faster than they wear out. They ever suffer attrition faster than
    they wear out. By the time one can get to G condition it simply won't exist at all any longer. But it's more chal-
    lenging to find a nice high grade 1973 nickel today than it was to find any typical date buff. And better still, it's
    actually possible to find a nice AU '73 nickel where it wasn't really possible to find anything outstanding in buffs
    because collectors scoured the coins starting way back in WW II.

    I really like gems and nickels are tough tough tough. >>



    you Rock, great reply-Happy Holidays.
    image

    Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill

Leave a Comment

BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list
Emoji
Image
Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights
Drop image/file