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25th ASE Flag Label selling more than Mercanti?
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This doesn't make sense to me...shouldn't the signed version be worth more?
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Many collectors want holders that will match the rest of their collections. When you're looking at coins graded 69 and/or 70, it seems the labels can be just as important, maybe more important than the coin itself! So it's no surprise that the FS Flag label might get more interest and price than a new different label that collectors didn't ask for. Similarly, it didn't surprise me that my non-FS labels got more than many FS and Mercanti labels since at the time I was the only one selling them on eBay, yet many collectors seemed to want them over the FS and Mercanti labels which are available by the hundreds.
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<< <i>They should stop Mercanti from signing anymore sets. Too much of his signature in the market is not good for that particular set IMHO.WHat do you think
You can't make a valid comparison until after the marketplace has also been flooded with flag sets and both labels have had a chance to stabilize. Drawing conclusions right now is silly.
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<< <i>They should stop Mercanti from signing anymore sets. Too much of his signature in the market is not good for that particular set IMHO.WHat do you think
You can't make a valid comparison until after the marketplace has also been flooded with flag sets and both labels have had a chance to stabilize. Drawing conclusions right now is silly. >>
I am with you on this one. The flood should be arriving very soon.
<< <i>This doesn't make sense to me...shouldn't the signed version be worth more? >>
...version of the slab?
They have the same coins in them.
Guess it depends on what you place value.
<< <i>So far, several of my non-FS regular blue labeled coins have sold for more than either the FS Flag or the Mercanti signed labels.
Many collectors want holders that will match the rest of their collections. When you're looking at coins graded 69 and/or 70, it seems the labels can be just as important, maybe more important than the coin itself! So it's no surprise that the FS Flag label might get more interest and price than a new different label that collectors didn't ask for. Similarly, it didn't surprise me that my non-FS labels got more than many FS and Mercanti labels since at the time I was the only one selling them on eBay, yet many collectors seemed to want them over the FS and Mercanti labels which are available by the hundreds. >>
any suggestions on how to search on just those, i can hardly find any. (really for comparison, as I have a set to move)
PCGS - non-first strike. 70,69,68,69,69.
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<< <i>So far, several of my non-FS regular blue labeled coins have sold for more than either the FS Flag or the Mercanti signed labels.
Many collectors want holders that will match the rest of their collections. When you're looking at coins graded 69 and/or 70, it seems the labels can be just as important, maybe more important than the coin itself! So it's no surprise that the FS Flag label might get more interest and price than a new different label that collectors didn't ask for. Similarly, it didn't surprise me that my non-FS labels got more than many FS and Mercanti labels since at the time I was the only one selling them on eBay, yet many collectors seemed to want them over the FS and Mercanti labels which are available by the hundreds. >>
any suggestions on how to search on just those, i can hardly find any. (really for comparison, as I have a set to move)
PCGS - non-first strike. 70,69,68,69,69. >>
Almost all of my sales are not showing in the completed listings yet as I listed multiple coins in each listing as buy it now/best offer. If I have taken a best offer, it doesn't show until all coins in the listing have sold. I've also sold a few outside of eBay which don't show up either.
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I am with you on this one. The flood should be arriving very soon. >>
The other thing I've noticed is a lot of flags being sold as singles and not sets. And the flag sets are mixed grade. Although certainly not many have hit yet for sure. In the end I"m betting on the mercanti's as that is all I've bought.
"Flags" are being sold by the little guys that got only a few 70s out their miserable regular submission (s)
They also being bought by the same crowd who missed some of the 70 grades to complete their 70s sets
They are paid by the money made by flipping proceeds of their grading and since most of the individual submitters still made some money they don't mind to pay a few extra easy-made hundreds to complete their loved sets
I feel it's in some way "social justice" to allow the little guys to catch up on their slower shipped/lower graded/lesser number of 70s efforts
<< <i>They should stop Mercanti from signing anymore sets. Too much of his signature in the market is not good for that particular set IMHO.WHat do you think
I think Mercanti is going to sign as many labels as are put in front of him because there are orders for them and an extra stash of signed labels for any future orders.
I think too, that the non-Mercanti label variations flood will begin soon and the price cutting wars will begin amongst private sellers. There will be plenty of private sellers willing to sell for less, just like some of the dealers.
<< <i>This doesn't make sense to me...shouldn't the signed version be worth more? >>
Ask yourself "why?".
Seriously. What value does it bring?
Do they look nice?
Do they allow for set continuity?
Do they bring to mind a certain superior quality mindset?
I think they should sell for less, to most folks.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
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(p.s. sarcasm based upon many other things going wrong thus far!)
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<< <i>This doesn't make sense to me...shouldn't the signed version be worth more? >>
Ask yourself "why?".
Seriously. What value does it bring?
Do they look nice?
Do they allow for set continuity?
Do they bring to mind a certain superior quality mindset?
I think they should sell for less, to most folks. >>
Best post of the day in my opinion!!!
<< <i>I think they should sell for less, to most folks. >>
[sarcasm] profound statement [/sarcasm]
Really? Most folks think they should sell for less?
I guess it depends on if you are buying or selling.
It would be worth more to me as a collector then to have these coins housed in them.
<< <i>Jerry: I can assure you it will likely not persist too much longer as I am getting in a batch of flag coins next week!
Wondercoin
(p.s. sarcasm based upon many other things going wrong thus far!) >>
Crack out a bunch of Mercantis?
Wondercoin
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<< <i>I think they should sell for less, to most folks. >>
[sarcasm] profound statement [/sarcasm]
Really? Most folks think they should sell for less?
I guess it depends on if you are buying or selling. >>
Even when you quoted me, you got the quote wrong.
Do you see where I said "I"? I did not say "most folks think they should sell for less", now did I?
You did leave out the part of my quote where I asked the questions, but, I expect that...it helps you to leave out pertinent items, right?
Doesn't seem to depend on whether one is buying or selling but rather they are being real or believing their hype.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>Do you see where I said "I"? I did not say "most folks think they should sell for less", now did I? >>
Nope, you said this, from your post -
<< I think they should sell for less, to most folks. >>
Note the capitalized letter "I".
I think that means "I", no?
You are making a distinction without a difference.
Guess I'm in the minority here but I really like the tombstones. They are a simple no nonsense label. No mistaking them for something they are not. There are coins in Mercantis and Flags galore, both from the set and not from the set. Have to read the fine print & make sure the label says "set". Easy to confuse with other coins not from the set. Only the tombstones offer a label that tells it like it is on the very top line of the holder. That's important for old duffers like me whose eyesight isn't as sharp as it once was.
Besides, they look pretty darn good in the OGP :
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<< <i>Guess I'm in the minority here but I really like the tombstones. They are a simple no nonsense label. No mistaking them for something they are not. There are coins in Mercantis and Flags galore, both from the set and not from the set. Have to read the fine print & make sure the label says "set". Easy to confuse with other coins not from the set. Only the tombstones offer a label that tells it like it is on the very top line of the holder. That's important for old duffers like me whose eyesight isn't as sharp as it once was.
Besides, they look pretty darn good in the OGP :
Since you put it that way...
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<< <i>Guess I'm in the minority here but I really like the tombstones. They are a simple no nonsense label. No mistaking them for something they are not. There are coins in Mercantis and Flags galore, both from the set and not from the set. Have to read the fine print & make sure the label says "set". Easy to confuse with other coins not from the set. Only the tombstones offer a label that tells it like it is on the very top line of the holder. That's important for old duffers like me whose eyesight isn't as sharp as it once was.
Besides, they look pretty darn good in the OGP :
OMG! Now we'll start seeing Flag FS sets with a free pair of reading glasses included free of charge!
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary."
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I don't collect the ASE as a series. I don't have a particularly affinity for the flag labels as I have coins in both NGC and PCGS slabs, some ER/FS, some not, and many that are just in OGP. So that might be why the flags don't do anything for me.
1) First Strike Flag Label: Submit before December 7th
2) First Strike Coin looking picture Label: Where is this one from? Is this the tomestone one?
3) First Strike Mercanti Label: Submit 5 sets at once