PSA Will Make Pop Report & SMR Free
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"Starting January 1, 2012 PSA will make its Online SMR and PSA Population Report free."
"The company says current subscribers to the Online SMR and the Population Report will have an automatic credit (for the time remaining on the subscription) placed on their account, which can be used for any products or services PSA offers"
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"The company says current subscribers to the Online SMR and the Population Report will have an automatic credit (for the time remaining on the subscription) placed on their account, which can be used for any products or services PSA offers"
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SMR is pretty much a hell of a lot better version of becket for graded, I still use it for many raw (just to judge what is more expensive in the set)...
So that is pretty awesome.
<< <i>I think this is going to help PSA and cards in PSA holders! >>
Yup, because people will see what the cards should be going for on SMR and bid accordingly (the general populous)...
I think the publication of SMR will be along the lines of the people who worship beckett and think they can get high column all day though.
They can't seem to get it out of their head it is a PRICE guide.
<< <i> PRICE guide. >>
Sean,
Wrong emphasis!
Price "GUIDE".
Neil
The SMR can only be described as a "guide" and I'm being kind when I use the term "guide". The data here is simply not indicative of real world current market conditions. I could easily cite numerous examples, but let the reader beware and do extensive research beyond SMR to come up with a viable pricing decision. A card is only worth what a buyer is willing to pay for that card on that day. I know of one case where the SMR was provided for a certain card in a certain grade, before the card in that grade even existed.
I do believe it is incumbent upon PSA to provide the most accurate and valid data available to subscribers or users of these "guides"...sadly, this is not the case.
Not a PSA basher, but the facts are the facts.
<< <i>How is the credit going to work. How much per month will we recieve? >>
From the email - Current subscribers to the Online SMR and the Population Report will have an automatic credit (for the time remaining on the subscription) placed on their account, which can be used for any products or services PSA offers
Based on craptastic math using the stated values of the things included in a membership, I'd guess it amounts to NO MORE THAN 15% of your membership fees, and that assumes you renewed on 12/31. Otherwise reduce that guess by whatever pro-rated portion of your membership remains.
Working on the following: 1970 Baseball PSA, 1970-1976 Raw, World Series Subsets PSA, 1969 Expansion Teams PSA, Fleer World Series Sets, Texas Rangers Topps Run 1972-1989
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<< <i>The POP report is beyond useless and cannot be fixed, not now or ever. Far too many crackouts with previous flips being discarded when the raw gets sent in has totally corrupted POP report data on many cards. Take a gander at the number of half-point cards now in the system that did not exist before. Would the collector really believe that each of these half-pointers was submitted as originally raw? I think not. While it may well be true that some collectors actually sent in the flip, I would submit that this number is extremely low. I know collectors who send in the same card time and time and time again, cracking it out...if the "card" keeps coming back as a 7, where do you think the other 7s go? They are simply added to the POP report and are in essence ghost cards that do not exist. This inflates the POP report and lowers the value of the card in that grade. How many threads have there been here where posters say stuff like "the card came back as a 6", "I sent it back in and it came back evid of trim", "I finally got the card to 7" ??
The SMR can only be described as a "guide" and I'm being kind when I use the term "guide". The data here is simply not indicative of real world current market conditions. I could easily cite numerous examples, but let the reader beware and do extensive research beyond SMR to come up with a viable pricing decision. A card is only worth what a buyer is willing to pay for that card on that day. I know of one case where the SMR was provided for a certain card in a certain grade, before the card in that grade even existed.
I do believe it is incumbent upon PSA to provide the most accurate and valid data available to subscribers or users of these "guides"...sadly, this is not the case.
Not a PSA basher, but the facts are the facts. >>
Agree 100%.
<< <i>The POP report is beyond useless and cannot be fixed, not now or ever. Far too many crackouts with previous flips being discarded when the raw gets sent in has totally corrupted POP report data on many cards. Take a gander at the number of half-point cards now in the system that did not exist before. Would the collector really believe that each of these half-pointers was submitted as originally raw? I think not. While it may well be true that some collectors actually sent in the flip, I would submit that this number is extremely low. I know collectors who send in the same card time and time and time again, cracking it out...if the "card" keeps coming back as a 7, where do you think the other 7s go? They are simply added to the POP report and are in essence ghost cards that do not exist. This inflates the POP report and lowers the value of the card in that grade. How many threads have there been here where posters say stuff like "the card came back as a 6", "I sent it back in and it came back evid of trim", "I finally got the card to 7" ??
The SMR can only be described as a "guide" and I'm being kind when I use the term "guide". The data here is simply not indicative of real world current market conditions. I could easily cite numerous examples, but let the reader beware and do extensive research beyond SMR to come up with a viable pricing decision. A card is only worth what a buyer is willing to pay for that card on that day. I know of one case where the SMR was provided for a certain card in a certain grade, before the card in that grade even existed.
I do believe it is incumbent upon PSA to provide the most accurate and valid data available to subscribers or users of these "guides"...sadly, this is not the case.
Not a PSA basher, but the facts are the facts. >>
I somewhat disagree. The pop report is useful for identifying the low population cards even considering crackouts.
As for SMR, it's a high-level guideline. If you want a better understanding of the current market then get VCP.
And I do agree that PSA could do a much better job on the SMR by keeping it current using market data.
Dave
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<< <i>The POP report is beyond useless and cannot be fixed, ...
Not a PSA basher, but the facts are the facts. >>
I somewhat disagree. The pop report is useful for identifying the low population cards even considering crackouts.
As for SMR, it's a high-level guideline. If you want a better understanding of the current market then get VCP.
And I do agree that PSA could do a much better job on the SMR by keeping it current using market data. >>
Pop report isn't as bad as some make it out to be, IMO. Common sense tells me that most of the pollution due to crackouts will fall at the lower end of the grading spectrum for a card, and plenty can be determined from the relative numbers for the various cards.
As for the SMR, I find it useful when looking at a new set to get the key cards and, again, a relative sense of how "key" they are. yeah, it doesn't reflect market, but it does tell you WHO is in a set that you should care about.
Merely guidelines....
Working on the following: 1970 Baseball PSA, 1970-1976 Raw, World Series Subsets PSA, 1969 Expansion Teams PSA, Fleer World Series Sets, Texas Rangers Topps Run 1972-1989
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<< <i>SMR is pretty much a hell of a lot better version of becket for graded, I still use it for many raw (just to judge what is more expensive in the set)... >>
SMR sucks just as much as Beckett. Beckett's Graded Card Investor was far and away a better publication than SMR. It's a shame it's no longer produced.
My small collection
Want List:
'61 Topps Roy Campanella in PSA 5-7
Cardinal T206 cards
Adam Wainwright GU Jersey
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<< <i>SMR is pretty much a hell of a lot better version of becket for graded, I still use it for many raw (just to judge what is more expensive in the set)... >>
SMR sucks just as much as Beckett. Beckett's Graded Card Investor was far and away a better publication than SMR. It's a shame it's no longer produced. >>
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