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PWCC 1986 Fleer Basketball Auctions

I was just cruising through the completed auctions from PWCC and saw some eye popping results on the 1986 Fleer Basketball.


The Dominque Wilkens went for $4,351. I realize this card is super tough and the current SMR is $2,200 so I am not shocked it went for a strong price but is this normal?


This would appear to be a great sign for those that own rare cards from this set in PSA 10.


The other eye popper was the Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. It is in the SMR at $800 and went for $3,650. Very strong price.


If anything this confirmes that PWCC get's some serious coin on rare cards.


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  • His fan base certainly drives up the prices
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  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭


    << <i>His fan base certainly drives up the prices >>



    Dominique still has a fan base? image


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    << <i>His fan base certainly drives up the prices >>



    Dominique still has a fan base? image >>



    LOL!
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  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,144 ✭✭✭
    Depends on the card. I consigned the Newcombe with him with an SMR of $1,100. Sold thru him for $493. I also had the Butkus that hardly every comes up on Ebay. VCP average was $675. Sold thru him for $160. I think it depends on the card. He definitely sells some that falls through the cracks, in addition to setting record highs on others.

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  • << <i>The Dominque Wilkens went for $4,351. I realize this card is super tough and the current SMR is $2,200 so I am not shocked it went for a strong price but is this normal? >>




    Yes, the fact that the SMR pricing is useless is normal.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I realize SMR is not perfect and is off on many card prices.

    My question was more is it normal for these cards to sell for these prices?


    These seem like big numbers.

  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,144 ✭✭✭


    << <i>My question was more is it normal for these cards to sell for these prices? >>



    No...it is not normal. The registry is a powerful drug. I bid that Butkus up over $300 and thought I was getting a steal. When I upgraded, I sold for a nice loss, because I am the main one chasing the Butkus cards. Supply and demand at its finest. I am sure the 1986 Fleer Basketball set has more registry chasers than the Dick Butkus set.
  • NickMNickM Posts: 4,895 ✭✭✭
    Wilkins was a strong, but not shocking, price. Kareem was a shocking price.

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  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    According to VCP, the Jabbar sold 5 times in 2009 and never for more than $650.00

    In 2010 it sold once for $900.00.

    The one you mentioned was the first one to sell in 2011.

    Wilkens - In 2010 it sold 3 times ... range was $2,400.00 - $3,400.00
    Two days before the auction you are speaking about one sold for $3,860.

    I guess these went for good bucks this time around.

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  • SDavidSDavid Posts: 1,584 ✭✭


    << <i>According to VCP, the Jabbar sold 5 times in 2009 and never for more than $650.00

    In 2010 it sold once for $900.00.

    The one you mentioned was the first one to sell in 2011.

    Wilkens - In 2010 it sold 3 times ... range was $2,400.00 - $3,400.00
    Two days before the auction you are speaking about one sold for $3,860.

    I guess these went for good bucks this time around. >>



    It was also the exact same card/cert that sold in 2010 for 900.

    If any of you are feeling brave you can get that card in a bgs 9.5 off ebay for 450 or best offer.
  • Funny coincidence, I was looking at pwcc's site a few nights ago.

    Did anyone see this '56 Mantle in march 2010?

    Extremely nice

    The best '56 psa 9 mantle you've ever seen?
  • RonBurgundyRonBurgundy Posts: 5,491 ✭✭✭
    His auction results this time around were very uneven.
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  • Aren't auctions meant to be uneven?
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,144 ✭✭✭
    I think he had too much stuff. Having items end at 2 in the morning is good for the West coasters, but the East coasters are usually in bed by then. And not everyone snipes.

    Put it this way - When 8.5's via auction sell for less than 8's via BIN, then that my friends, is an uneven auction!
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I do not have any historical data to back up this belief but it would seem to me unless you have something that a lot of people want and have been looking for a long time, Christmas is not the best time to sell cards in many cases.

    There are a lot of people in the middle market to low end of the card market that do not have unlimited funds and family priorities take over around the holiday season.

    At the super high end I would think the time of the year has little or no impact because those folks have the resources year round and they are not budgeting to buy cards.

    Running 1500 lots at one time can be a good thing because there is lots of inventory to choose from but can also be a bad thing as buyers commit their current capital towards items and essentially run out of buying power.

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