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i am interested in maybe putting this set in psa 7 ..anyone has any idea of a realistic price that i would pay? thanks ethan
"Women should be obscene and not heard. "
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    thegemmintmanthegemmintman Posts: 3,101 ✭✭
    Tough to say, but you should be able to buy all the 7's on Ebay over time for say $1,200 - 1500. Maybe a little more or a little less depending on how patient/impatient one is.
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    calleochocalleocho Posts: 1,569 ✭✭
    wow ..i would have thought that it would have been much cheaper... i checked ebay and 8's are plentiful...so in psa 7's a each card would come out to around 25 bucks each? are these condition sensitive cards? would i just do better by buying a raw set and summiting on my own? thanks Ethan
    "Women should be obscene and not heard. "
    Groucho Marx
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    BigKidAtHeartBigKidAtHeart Posts: 1,799 ✭✭
    7's are all over the place...

    I am doing 7's (and higher where I can)
    and here is what I find:

    with the exception of Mantle, Mays, Aaron, Yaz, Koufax, & a couple of SPs
    you can get all the others in PSA 7 for about 12 - 16 $$ each
    (+ shipping so it is good to buy lots from 1 seller to save)

    52 commons @ $15 = 780
    8 Stars & sps @ $35 average = 280
    Estimated total for PSA 7 set = $1060

    You can collect and submit yourself, but the cards will range from $1 - $10 each
    and grading fees are $7 - $10 each + shipping & insurance...
    so you will have to decide.

    Good Luck either way.
    ~jeff
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    Bigkid, your analysis is excellent. I would also factor in the shipping costs and you're up to around $1,200. I think this would be the low end of the range assuming that there is a lot of supply of 7's which there currently are.
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    qualitycardsqualitycards Posts: 2,811 ✭✭✭
    As usual GEMMINT is Lord and master of the '64 Giants and knows what he is talking about. ..jay
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    BigKidAtHeartBigKidAtHeart Posts: 1,799 ✭✭
    hey if anyone needs small amounts of CARD SAVER 4's for storage or sending to PSA
    I have some up on ebay.

    (20) Card Saver 4's
    (25) Card Saver 4's
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    calleochocalleocho Posts: 1,569 ✭✭
    i just picked up cards #1 for $2.50 on ebay last night. thank u guys for the advice. if i can be selective and pay prices like this it might be a nice set to complete. my main goal is the 1992 bowman set. but the set is a monster and very few cards are graded so i might try to build this set by being picky here and there.


    ps . Jay i got my package today .. thanks for everything
    "Women should be obscene and not heard. "
    Groucho Marx
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    qualitycardsqualitycards Posts: 2,811 ✭✭✭
    Ethan, glad you rec'd it. Just don't eat the Canseco candy! By the way, Canseco is Zardoz' favorite player. Was invited to play on the ZAG All Stars too! ..jay
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    BigKidAtHeartBigKidAtHeart Posts: 1,799 ✭✭
    By the way,
    I am really excited to be moved up to the #3 All Time Finest 64 Topps Giants Set!

    I am really trying to get the set finished, but am very happy with 3rd!

    I will likely NEVER be 2nd or 1st - as I just cant dominate the world like gemmint and seal boy do!!

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    qualitycardsqualitycards Posts: 2,811 ✭✭✭
    BIGKID - Hey! Your move to 3rd place, knocked me down to 4th...Ohhh! the agony!!
    ...and as you said GEMMINT is untouchable, he's a godlike figure in the '64 Giants world....jay
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    thegemmintmanthegemmintman Posts: 3,101 ✭✭
    Quality, BigKid, - Flattery is getting you everywhere with me, but I don't deserve such praise. The title of "Emperor" should be sufficient image
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    qualitycardsqualitycards Posts: 2,811 ✭✭✭
    GEMMINT - If you want to slide me over 1 of your excess PSA-10 Giants, I'll say whatever you want, whatever it takes!.image...jay
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    thegemmintmanthegemmintman Posts: 3,101 ✭✭
    LOL, I'll take it under consideration.
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    MWUHAHHHAHAHAAAA!!!!
    "We don't own these cards, we just hold them for awhile." -- Jay of Quality Cards
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    calleochocalleocho Posts: 1,569 ✭✭
    i got card number #1 on ebay (Item # 1819873914 )
    ..its a psa 7. i was looking around and found that its easier to get psa 8's than 7's....this set seems to be aviable in high grade
    also how many cards does the master set includes? ..i have heard 60 but an ebay seller mentioned that it was 77? can someone please let me know... also was this a good price or this card the most common of all? thanks Ethan
    "Women should be obscene and not heard. "
    Groucho Marx
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    60 cards which includes 7 short prints.
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    BigKidAtHeartBigKidAtHeart Posts: 1,799 ✭✭

    1964 Topss Giants Baseball Card Checklist

    SetName Card # Player

    1964 Topps Giants 1 Gary Peters
    1964 Topps Giants 2 Ken Johnson
    1964 Topps Giants 3 Sandy Koufax SP
    1964 Topps Giants 4 Bob Bailey
    1964 Topps Giants 5 Milt Pappas
    1964 Topps Giants 6 Ron Hunt
    1964 Topps Giants 7 Whitey Ford
    1964 Topps Giants 8 Roy McMillan
    1964 Topps Giants 9 Rocky Colavito
    1964 Topps Giants 10 Jim Bunning
    1964 Topps Giants 11 Roberto Clemente
    1964 Topps Giants 12 Al Kaline
    1964 Topps Giants 13 Nellie Fox
    1964 Topps Giants 14 Tony Gonzalez
    1964 Topps Giants 15 Jim Gentile
    1964 Topps Giants 16 Dean Chance
    1964 Topps Giants 17 Dick Ellsworth
    1964 Topps Giants 18 Jim Fregosi
    1964 Topps Giants 19 Dick Groat
    1964 Topps Giants 20 Chuck Hinton
    1964 Topps Giants 21 Elston Howard
    1964 Topps Giants 22 Dick Farrell
    1964 Topps Giants 23 Albie Pearson
    1964 Topps Giants 24 Frank Howard
    1964 Topps Giants 25 Mickey Mantle
    1964 Topps Giants 26 Joe Torre
    1964 Topps Giants 27 Eddie Brinkman
    1964 Topps Giants 28 Bob Friend SP
    1964 Topps Giants 29 Frank Robinson
    1964 Topps Giants 30 Bill Freehan
    1964 Topps Giants 31 Warren Spahn
    1964 Topps Giants 32 Camilo Pascual
    1964 Topps Giants 33 Pete Ward
    1964 Topps Giants 34 Jim Maloney
    1964 Topps Giants 35 Dave Wickersham
    1964 Topps Giants 36 Johnny Callison
    1964 Topps Giants 37 Juan Marichal
    1964 Topps Giants 38 Harmon Killebrew
    1964 Topps Giants 39 Luis Aparicio
    1964 Topps Giants 40 Dick Radatz
    1964 Topps Giants 41 Bob Gibson
    1964 Topps Giants 42 Dick Stuart SP
    1964 Topps Giants 43 Tommy Davis
    1964 Topps Giants 44 Tony Oliva
    1964 Topps Giants 45 Wayne Causey SP
    1964 Topps Giants 46 Max Alvis
    1964 Topps Giants 47 Galen Cisco SP
    1964 Topps Giants 48 Carl Yastrzemski
    1964 Topps Giants 49 Hank Aaron
    1964 Topps Giants 50 Brooks Robinson
    1964 Topps Giants 51 Willie Mays SP
    1964 Topps Giants 52 Billy Williams
    1964 Topps Giants 53 Juan Pizarro
    1964 Topps Giants 54 Leon Wagner
    1964 Topps Giants 55 Orlando Cepeda
    1964 Topps Giants 56 Vada Pinson
    1964 Topps Giants 57 Ken Boyer
    1964 Topps Giants 58 Ron Santo
    1964 Topps Giants 59 John Romano
    1964 Topps Giants 60 Bill Skowron SP

    Copyright @1995-2001 beckett.com

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    BobSBobS Posts: 1,738 ✭✭
    I too have recently joined in on the 64 giants (little pieces of art, I think) . I have a question I think gem. and some others may be able to answer. I have noticed a few current auctions for 9's state "non graded higher". Is this true? Which #'s have no 10's in the pop. report?

    Thanks
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    BigKidAtHeartBigKidAtHeart Posts: 1,799 ✭✭
    1964 TOPPS GIANTS
    CARD NO NAME VARIETY 1-2 3-4 5 6 7 7Q 8 8Q 9 9Q 10 TOTAL
    Total: 1 24 166 350 1449 47 2912 384 806 129 38 6306
    1 GARY PETERS 0 0 0 0 8 0 33 1 9 1 0 52
    2 KEN JOHNSON 0 0 0 0 2 0 19 1 11 0 1 34
    3 SANDY KOUFAX 0 2 3 19 43 1 45 3 9 1 0 126
    4 BOB BAILEY 0 0 0 0 3 0 18 0 9 0 0 30
    5 MILT PAPPAS 0 0 0 0 5 0 34 0 10 1 0 50
    6 RON HUNT 0 0 0 0 6 0 19 0 6 0 1 32
    7 WHITEY FORD 0 1 3 5 37 0 150 8 22 1 0 227
    8 ROY McMILLAN 0 0 0 0 6 0 18 1 0 0 0 25
    9 ROCKY COLAVITO 0 0 1 1 8 0 36 4 18 1 2 71
    10 JIM BUNNING 0 0 1 1 13 0 25 1 6 0 1 48
    11 BOB CLEMENTE 0 8 17 40 156 13 198 66 21 7 0 529
    12 AL KALINE 0 1 2 7 65 1 190 16 69 4 1 356
    13 NELLIE FOX 0 0 2 0 15 0 40 1 6 1 0 65
    14 TONY GONZALEZ 0 0 0 1 7 1 19 1 3 4 0 36
    15 JIM GENTILE 0 0 0 0 3 0 23 0 5 0 0 31
    16 DEAN CHANCE 0 0 1 1 11 0 18 0 10 0 2 43
    17 DICK ELLSWORTH 0 0 1 0 5 0 13 0 8 0 0 27
    18 JIM FREGOSI 0 0 0 1 10 0 15 1 7 4 0 38
    19 DICK GROAT 0 0 1 0 5 0 21 0 6 0 0 33
    20 CHUCK HINTON 0 0 1 0 5 0 12 1 7 0 0 26
    21 ELSTON HOWARD 0 0 1 2 6 0 14 4 1 0 0 28
    22 DICK FARRELL 0 0 1 0 3 0 12 1 4 0 0 21
    23 ALBIE PEARSON 0 0 2 0 4 0 17 0 1 0 0 24
    24 FRANK HOWARD 0 0 3 1 11 0 29 0 6 4 1 55
    25 MICKEY MANTLE 1 9 65 150 325 15 370 61 92 36 0 1126
    26 JOE TORRE 0 0 2 4 20 1 61 3 28 1 1 121
    27 ED BRINKMAN 0 1 0 2 6 0 9 1 5 5 0 29
    28 BOB FRIEND 0 0 2 0 21 0 21 0 6 0 0 50
    29 FRANK ROBINSON 0 0 1 3 34 0 86 6 43 1 6 180
    30 BILL FREEHAN 0 0 0 0 1 0 8 0 4 0 0 13
    31 WARREN SPAHN 0 0 5 8 44 0 113 72 15 9 2 268
    32 CAMILO PASCUAL 0 0 0 0 10 0 31 0 8 1 1 51
    33 PETE WARD 0 0 0 1 6 0 19 0 9 1 0 36
    34 JIM MALONEY 0 0 0 1 10 0 8 0 3 1 0 23
    35 DAVE WICKERSHAM 0 0 0 0 4 0 15 2 2 0 1 24
    36 JOHNNY CALLISON 0 0 3 4 9 0 29 0 3 6 1 55
    37 JUAN MARICHAL 0 0 1 7 31 0 76 8 30 1 1 155
    38 HARMON KILLEBREW 0 0 0 9 47 3 151 32 38 3 1 285
    39 LUIS APARICIO 0 1 15 8 18 0 31 2 0 0 0 75
    40 DICK RADATZ 0 0 0 0 9 0 15 1 7 0 1 33
    41 BOB GIBSON 0 0 0 6 25 2 65 7 26 0 4 135
    42 DICK STUART 0 0 3 2 9 0 14 0 9 0 0 37
    43 TOMMY DAVIS 0 0 1 0 4 0 16 3 6 0 1 31
    44 TONY OLIVA 0 0 0 2 7 0 40 0 26 0 0 75
    45 WAYNE CAUSEY 0 0 0 1 11 2 9 3 8 0 0 34
    46 MAX ALVIS 0 0 0 2 4 0 9 0 7 1 0 23
    47 GALEN CISCO 0 0 2 1 4 0 19 0 4 1 0 31
    48 CARL YASTRZEMSKI 0 0 4 6 74 1 102 33 10 5 1 236
    49 HANK AARON 0 0 5 18 63 1 147 9 27 0 0 270
    50 BROOKS ROBINSON 0 0 4 6 79 0 165 11 35 13 2 316
    51 WILLIE MAYS 0 1 2 15 57 3 61 12 19 3 0 173
    52 BILLY WILLIAMS 0 0 1 1 11 0 24 0 7 0 0 44
    53 JUAN PIZARRO 0 0 0 1 3 0 18 1 7 1 1 32
    54 LEON WAGNER 0 0 2 1 1 0 17 0 4 1 2 28
    55 ORLANDO CEPEDA 0 0 2 0 25 0 63 2 28 2 2 124
    56 VADA PINSON 0 0 0 1 7 2 27 2 18 3 0 60
    57 KEN BOYER 0 0 0 0 5 1 7 3 2 4 0 22
    58 RON SANTO 0 0 3 5 12 0 20 0 13 0 1 54
    59 JOHN ROMANO 0 0 1 0 4 0 19 0 0 1 0 25
    60 BILL SKOWRON 0 0 2 6 12 0 9 0 3 0 0 32
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    BigKidAtHeartBigKidAtHeart Posts: 1,799 ✭✭
    ok that is hard to read, but
    here are the ONLY cards WITH ANY psa 10's & the number of 10's that exist:

    KEN JOHNSON = 1
    RON HUNT = 1
    ROCKY COLAVITO = 2
    JIM BUNNING = 1
    AL KALINE=1
    DEAN CHANCE=2
    FRANK HOWARD=1
    FRANK ROBINSON=6
    WARREN SPAHN=2
    CAMILO PASCUAL=1
    DAVE WICKERSHAM=1
    JOHNNY CALLISON=1
    JUAN MARICHAL=1
    HARMON KILLEBREW=1
    DICK RADATZ=1
    BOB GIBSON=4
    TOMMY DAVIS=1
    CARL YASTRZEMSKI=1
    BROOKS ROBINSON=2
    JUAN PIZARRO=1
    LEON WAGNER=2
    ORLANDO CEPEDA=2
    RON SANTO=1

    AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE JUST NOT MANY 10'S AT ALL IN THIS SET. NEITHER WILLIE MAYS, HANK ARRON, ROBERTO CLEMENTE NOR MICKEY MANTLE CARDS IN THIS SET HAVE EVER BEEN GRADED gem 10 by PSA! SO GET THE NINES WHERE YOU CAN!
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    BobSBobS Posts: 1,738 ✭✭
    Okay, so gem., how many of those 10's DO you really have? As far as 9's, that's what I've been going for, even though the last two I won (months ago) were over my budget big time. I agree with most on this post that the competition on these has grown very much in the last few months. Last year I used to at least try and compete on the 10's, now forget about it. The 10's now, I wish. I hope the 60's special floods e-bay with 64's to drop the prices a bit. Anyone as optimistic as me???? Thank's for the pop. report. By the way, I only have 8 cards in the set so far (pretty weak I know) but hopefully that will get better in time. I'm very patient and like to spread out my collecting dollar over many different years, sports, and sets. It's hard to get bored or dissapointed this way as there's always something else out there to bid on. I must learn to, "focus Daniel-san".
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    Bob S - you can forget about getting an answer from Gemmint concerning the make-up of his set. Believe me, I've tried. It would probably be easier to contact every other collector in the world and ask them if they have any of the 10's. From there, you could find out what he has through process of elimination. It would probably take less time too.

    Seriously, I think he is missing one, possibly two of the 10's in the set. Plus, he probably has most of the duplicate 10's too. There are a few that I know he doesn't have.
    "We don't own these cards, we just hold them for awhile." -- Jay of Quality Cards
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    BigKidAtHeartBigKidAtHeart Posts: 1,799 ✭✭


    << <i>I hope the 60's special floods e-bay with 64's to drop the prices a bit. >>

    I am sending a load of them in myself next week!
    But I hope to keep them for myself!!!

    sorry
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    thegemmintmanthegemmintman Posts: 3,101 ✭✭
    Hey how did Bigkid get a hold of my '64 Topps Giants Registry list?????

    Just kiddin' image
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    Well, I am planning on submitting the 1000 or so of these cards that I have and I am sure all will grade 9 or 10. I will then be auctioning these cards off on ebay and I will block thegemmintman from bidding on these auctions. Ofcourse, I am doing all of this simply to rid the world of Gemmint's hold on the registry. I have been waiting for this for some time now.

    Before Gemmint needs to be admitted some where, I should tell everyone that I am kidding. image
    "We don't own these cards, we just hold them for awhile." -- Jay of Quality Cards
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    thegemmintmanthegemmintman Posts: 3,101 ✭✭
    Pinhigh - LOL, welll that's one way to stop my diabolical plan to dominate the "World of the Giants". But then you would be passing up "ONE MILLION" dollars worth of bids.
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    BigKidAtHeartBigKidAtHeart Posts: 1,799 ✭✭
    gem mint,
    you should use the pinhigh phrase back at him...

    MWUHAHHHAHAHAAAA!!!!
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    Gemmint - Money would not be me purpose if I were to do that. I do have some of these cards that I may submit.

    BigKid - My evil laugh was a response to another post and it has hidden meaning.
    "We don't own these cards, we just hold them for awhile." -- Jay of Quality Cards
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