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PSA Special Labeling --What Does This Mean?

Ive been considering building a 1950 Bowman PSA 7 football set. I came across a 1950 Bowman Tittle on ebay tonight but i noticed something odd about it. On the flip what does the bottom line mean? He also has a 1948 Sid Luckman PSA 8 for 75k with the same lab
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  • Sorry I guess a link would help


    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1950-BOWMAN-5-Y-A-TITTLE-RC-HOFer-PSA-9-MINT-Pop-2-/390295465246?pt=US_Football&hash=item5adf6c2d1e


    Check out his 1948 Luckman. Its 30K above SMR and that back looks like its staind with blue ink. Is this common for this issue. What am i missing here?
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  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,668 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Actually it has a stain on the reverse under his "Height", so why didn't this card receive the dreaded (ST) designation???

    Paul.

    Later, Paul.
  • thenavarrothenavarro Posts: 7,497 ✭✭✭
    The bottom line means that it was graded for Fightforolddc's collection. PSA offers a "Pedigree" service where you can pay extra and basically put your name on the flip like that.

    Doesn't have anything to do with the card, just with the submitter.
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  • CWCW Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭
    This is what some collectors refer to as a pedigree, which designates
    that the card came from a known collector or a notable collection.
    SGC does that same thing also, as I have an older card with a Frank
    Nagy pedigree (have also seen Lionel Carter on SGC flips).

    I'm not sure if PSA will do this for a fee, or if it is done as a favor, perhaps
    at their liberty. Some collectors seek out pedigreed flips, as it can be cool
    to think of a card residing in a hobby pioneer's collection at one time, but
    these cards typically do not command a higher price (they may sell for a
    bit more, but not much).

    I am not familiar with the name listed on the PSA flip you pointed out, but
    I imagine he probably held a high grade Bowman set on the registry. The
    seller likely consigned the sale of his set to an auction house, who in turn
    had the key cards reholdered with the pedigree on the flip.
  • TmbrWolf22TmbrWolf22 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭
    Fight for Old DC ....the highest graded HOF Rookie card collection. (check it out on the registry) PSA Hall of Fame collection. I believe he sent all the cards back to PSA to have the Fight For Old DC Collection put on the flip before he retired the collection, and sold the cards. I think he actually cosigned them to Mint State, and they are selling them for him. The collection is UNREAL.
  • Ok, just so I understand this correctly. You can pay PSA extra money to have your name on the flip. OK Im ok with that, I think its kinda crazy and a waste of money and find it quite arrogant, but im OK with it.....BUT, why are the prices so high, 30k over book for a stained card, that I think over graded. Am I still missing something here.
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  • TmbrWolf22TmbrWolf22 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭
    because the registry is an evil powerful thing....thats why!....lol he has a best offer option on the listing....take a shot at it.
  • To me the Barry Halper collection was the best I have ever seen. It was a Masterpiece. Absolute masterpiece. If you ever saw the "auction book" all I can say is I hope hevean is like that.
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  • NickMNickM Posts: 4,895 ✭✭✭
    Many of the highlights of the Barry Halper collection turned out to be fake.

    Nick
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  • << <i>Many of the highlights of the Barry Halper collection turned out to be fake.

    Nick >>




    Not cause of your comment, but when I said the best of his collection I was referring tothe trophies, awards, programs, you know baseball history. Autos are everywhere, cards are everywhere. But the stuff he had was unique. Thats what i liked about it.
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  • NickMNickM Posts: 4,895 ✭✭✭
    A lot of the jerseys he had were fake too - and much of the best real stuff was stolen. Halper was also notorious for trading stolen or fake goods for legitimate ones.

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  • << <i>A lot of the jerseys he had were fake too - and much of the best real stuff was stolen. Halper was also notorious for trading stolen or fake goods for legitimate ones.

    Nick >>



    ^^^^^This is why I love PSA. Thats a shame alot of his items were fake/stolen.
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  • brendanb438brendanb438 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭
    A pedigree is something you see a lot more in the comic book market through the company CGC that is the "PSA" of comic grading.

    It has way more meaning in the comic book market and adds in some cases 50% to the value of a comic.

    I personally could care less but a lot of collectors out there who seek out these pedigrees from important comic book finds or collections.

    Never seen one on a PSA flip before, guessing they don't mean a whole lot in the sports card world.


  • << <i>A pedigree is something you see a lot more in the comic book market through the company CGC that is the "PSA" of comic grading.

    It has way more meaning in the comic book market and adds in some cases 50% to the value of a comic.

    I personally could care less but a lot of collectors out there who seek out these pedigrees from important comic book finds or collections.

    Never seen one on a PSA flip before, guessing they don't mean a whole lot in the sports card world. >>




    Right on man, dont we always say "but the card not the slab".
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  • Unreal collection of HOF rookie cards. Yes, they're all priced supremely high and unlikely to sell at those prices but it still great they have them for the public to see.
  • What was up wit the Luckman. IThe back was clearly stained.
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  • << <i>Actually it has a stain on the reverse under his "Height", so why didn't this card receive the dreaded (ST) designation???

    Paul. >>



    That looks like the front image is bleeding through to the back. I think PSA treats that differently than a post-production stain.
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