For the Kennedy fans..MS Kennedys pops rising in a short time.....

Bcsican

I noticed that the MS Kennedy pops are slowly rising. But a big jump in the 1971 D, all these increases are only since April 8th. In six days these are the years that have increased. Most no big deal one coin, but the 1971 jumped 22 coins in six days. This is only for MS 67 coins....

The 1964 that use to be scarce went from 15 to 18
the 1964 D from 18 to 20
the 1966 from 28 to 29
the 1969 D from MS 66 from 28 to 29
the 1970 D from 143 to 144
the 1971 D from 70 to 92
the 1972 D from 46 to 50
the 1973 D from 44 to 45
the 1977 from 18 to 21
the 1986 D from44 to 45
the 1992 P44 to 45
the 1993 P from38 to 40
the 1994 P 47 to 48
the 1996 P from 97 to 101
the 1996 D 80to 81
the 1999 D from 111 to 113
the 2001D from 112 to 113

I had looked at the pop report on April 8th all of these increases are in 6 days, granted they are minor jumps but many coins in the series that were very difficult to find are slowly becoming more common. I still feel that there will be some low pops staying low,my biggest concern will the MS 67s that were hard to find become very common?

So how common will these Kennedys become ? Millions of coins to be graded is now not the time to collect MS 67 Kennedys? Or any modern coins hows your series doing in the pops?

New pop increases as of 4/27/02:

1967 43 to 44
1968 D 104 to 107 ( MS 66 )
1971 34 to 36 (MS 66), Rare in MS 67 only 5 graded that high
1971 D 92 to 94
1972 60 to 61
1972 D 120 to 121
1976 silver MS 68 42 to 44
1979 30 to 31
1986 D 45 to 46
1988 D 49 to 50
1990 P 11 to 13, when I sold my set original this was a pop 7
1991 P 9 to 10
1992 D MS 68 2 to 3
1994 P 48 to 49
1995 P 31 tp 33
1995 D 43 to 46
1996 P 101 to 106
1996 D 81 to 84
1997 P 33 to 34
1997 D 16 to 17
1998 P 13 to 19
1998 D 23 to 25
1999 P 123 to 160 BIG JUMP will create more MS 68s in the long run.
1999 D 113 to 114
2000 P72 to 74
2000 12 to 19
2001P 41 to 58(MS 68)
2001 D 113 to 115

With these increases happening in such a short time what will become of MS 67s in the future, will the services lighen up their standards and MS 68s become common on these new modern coins? and what will happen to other series?

DHeath

I don't know about anyone else, but I've submitted several invoices full of MS Kennedies in the past few months knowing prices are rising. It seems to be a great entry point right now, because interest in the series is starting to spike.

Bcsican

just updated they keep going up......

keithdagen

Matt,

Kennedys have been overlooked for so long, and now the prices are skyrocketing. It seems natural that dealers and collectors would start seriously examining their mint sets and rolls to try and find a few nice pieces. I'm hoping for some more MS-67's in the pre-71 dates so I can pick up a few nicely toned ones for type in the future, although I am happy with the 66's I kept when I sold most of my early dates.

Keith

DHeath

My latest invoice included a 1971-P that made MS66. What suprised me is the 72-P that is a solid MS67 in my opinion. The rest are as expected.

Inv# 337326

1 30001053 1971 50C MS66
2 30001054 1971-D 50C MS64
3 30001055 1972 50C MS66
4 30001056 1972-D 50C MS66
5 30001057 1973-D 50C MS65
6 30001058 1976 50C Clad MS65
7 30001059 1976-D 50C Clad MS66
8 30001060 1976-S 50C Silver MS66
9 30001061 1979 50C MS66
10 30001062 1976-S 50C Silver MS67

coynclecter

What will happen bcsican is typical of market cycles in graded coins

Ph1) Not very valuable so no one sends them in for grading
PH2) "Savy" dealers point out thier pupulation numbers and thier percieved "scarcity" to collector
PH3) Collectors start buying to get in on the "rarity" while they can, dealers buy to supply clients
PH4) Prices increase because of lack of supply
PH5) More collectors see the price rise and dealers point out this to sell more
PH6) Everyone starts looking at thier holdings and start submitting them
PH7) More start to appear on the market and prices stabalize
PH8) Prices get soft as everyone who wants one has it and many are still coming back from the grading services
PH9) Dealers realize the game is over and start to dump thier supply at discount prices.
PH10) The "not so savy" collector/investor gets stuck with an overpriced coin he really didn't want anyway.

History repeats itself

Bcsican

Keith I agree more people are looking because of the high prices, but the more that get found and the pops in certain years rise those high prices will start to fall as more MS 67s and 68s get found. As I personally have started another set im not looking forward to the prices i`ve paid on some years with low pops becomming as common as the 1999 P and D in MS 67. That coin at one time was 125.00 now its a 25.00 dollar coin. I guess we can call it good or bad timing. But I dont want to say ouch!. That hurt......

braddick

The high pop increase is in line with the growing popularity of this series.
I don't see prices falling for GEM MS67 Kennedies unless a whole bundle of new ones are made.

For each and every MS67- 60+ other coins are needed to complete the set. It's still a daunting task.

keithdagen

I think that you will see a two tier price trend in this set. Coins like the 1999's and 2000's will start to come down because the reality is that these issues are untapped vs their potential. Earlier coins, like the coins from the early 70's, will continue to demand strong money, and increase in value as serious collectors realize that there are not many more out there.

And I still think that a majority of the 60's issues are undervalued. Too many coins in the population are really SMS pieces, and most of the honest business strike MS-66's are tucked away by active Kennedy collectors.

Keith

raycyca

If look at the prices, the only really high prices are because there are only 2-3 people bidding the prices that high. When these few people complete their sets, the price drops. Look the 1972-D, I believe someone just paid over $300 for one on E-bay and yet after that one sold there was another that is on E-bay for $100 and I believe there were no bids. How come? Look at the 90-P in MS 66, we all know who's trying to accumulate those, but look at their pop! Just my 2 cents, or 4 bits.