Help me make some sense of this item description, please. (update- I bought it)
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What does "Meesles" mean? Why would they call it a "Meesles Penny"?
Does it have the measles?
Are there restrikes of these?
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It is often referred to as "Mees, Les" when in an alphabetical list.
OK, I thought. France is kind of near the Low Countries.
But Les Mées, France, is nowhere near Holland. It's in the southeast, not the northern part of France.
So what is "Meesles Mint", and how is a silver coin like this called a "Meesles Penny" (sic)?
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Where's Andres when we need him?
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these dutch small silver coins are called : Muntmeester penningen , somebody made an akward translation.
a better translation would be : Mintmaster medal , not an official ""coin"" , but the same design as the guilder, these were presented as New Years gifts, and the (silver) value was an quarter guilder or 25 cents.
the obverse shows Pallas Athena or the dutch virgin with the liberty hat and bible . the motto translates as : In this I believe and rely on. reverse is the dutch lion and motto: silver money as ordered by the united provinces of the netherlands; Holl = mintplace dordrecht
shortlived minted ""coins"" only minted a couple of years and prohibited by the dutch government around 1760 - market value: $50-$100
greetings from Altea - Alicante Spain
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these were only minted in 1756 - 57 - 58 and 59 , prohibited in 1760
heres a picture of my 1758 newyearsmedal, minted in Utrecht and a 3 Guilder coin , also minted in Utrecht on which the new years medals were based.
the dutch guilder was officially introduced in 1694 in 0,5 - 1 - 2 and 3 guilder silver coins and was only recently made redunded in 2002 in favor of the Euro.
regards from the Netherlands, Andres
Great coins.
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heres one offered by a dutch seller on eBay.nl
3 Guilder Utrecht 1794