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New '48 Leaf Project - Photos used for the cards

Since I've hit a roadblock (actually more of a significant stall) on the Autograph Set (currently 56 of 98) and the addition of White Backgrounds has really been slow, I've decided to undertake a new side street in my obsession with this issue. I've decided that I will look to obtain wire photos of the images used to make the 1948 Leaf cards.

Interestingly enough, the first to be added to the collection is also the first card in the set. Here is a Sid Luckman wire photo taken circa 1946 from which the Leaf Company used the image and colorized the jersey (some artistic liberties were taken which includes inking such that the number appears to be a 6 rather than a 2 in the 42 and removing the thumb on Luckman's throwing hand). I've added the base card and my autographed card to the image creating an interesting trilogy that sort of defines my zaniness with regard to this issue . . .

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    PowderedH2OPowderedH2O Posts: 2,443 ✭✭
    Nice! That side project may prove to be more elusive than the original one. Good luck.
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    otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Nice! That side project may prove to be more elusive than the original one. Good luck. >>



    Thanks!

    Actually, the "original" one was completed when the PSA Basic Set went to 100% (currently working on upgrades) and sits at #7 All-Time. The second project was the PSA Master Set which is at 93% and is currently #1 All-Time. The third project was the Autograph Set which is at 57%. This last undertaking should give me something to look forward to as it is currently at 1%...
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    BPorter26BPorter26 Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Scott very cool project. Good luck!!! BTW I'm still looking for a 48 Bill Dudley.
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    otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Scott very cool project. Good luck!!! BTW I'm still looking for a 48 Bill Dudley. >>



    Bobby:

    Sorry, but I don't have anything in the dupes pile for Dudley as I sent them to him to be signed before he passed away. I've got an autographed beater that is PSA/DNA red flip if you want. It is signed "Bullet Bill" Dudley in blue Sharpie.
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    FavreFan1971FavreFan1971 Posts: 3,105 ✭✭✭
    Nice idea. Looking forward to your updates.
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    jimradjimrad Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭
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    awesome icon Scott
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    calaban7calaban7 Posts: 3,002 ✭✭✭
    Very interesting and pretty neat new project. I wouldn't even know where to begin such an endevour. Hope you do well .--- Sonny
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    SidePocketSidePocket Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭
    Very cool! How do you find the wire photos?

    "Molon Labe"

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    cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,561 ✭✭✭
    Scott, nice way to tie everything in. Good luck with finding more!!!
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    Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hi Scott

    I'm a big fan of 'companion' pieces to items whether cards or other.

    Looks like a fun project - I'm looking forward to the others you find.

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    Mike
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    Excellent project. image
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    vladguerrerovladguerrero Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭
    Awesome project, psa will also slab the wire photos...
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    otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭
    #2 - Although the tilt and inking made it a little tougher to catch . . .

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    MBMiller25MBMiller25 Posts: 6,057 ✭✭
    Scott, This is an amazing project, please be sure to update every step along the way. good Luck!
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    DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,220 ✭✭
    Scott ... this is a real interesting project. Please keep us updated on your progress. GOOD LUCK!
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    Doug

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    divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,527 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great project. Scott!!!

    It looks like you are off to a terrific start...image

    Good luck with the rest...

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    otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭
    Another . . .

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    recbballrecbball Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭
    Scott - great stuff!
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    Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Geez Scott - incredible!

    Good stuff - this is getting good.
    Mike
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    otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭
    And another . . .

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    For some reason the tilt of his body looks to be off just a little between the card and photo. However after about ten minutes of scrutiny, everything else matches up perfect. So, I believe that it is the photo.

    Any idea about the tilt? Artistic freedom from the manufacter?
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    This is Alot of fun to watch.

    Edit to ask the question: are the wire photos expensive?
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    otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭


    << <i>For some reason the tilt of his body looks to be off just a little between the card and photo. However after about ten minutes of scrutiny, everything else matches up perfect. So, I believe that it is the photo.

    Any idea about the tilt? Artistic freedom from the manufacter? >>



    Artistic license was taken with regard to both the tilt and the color choices for the inking (mainly because the color options were red, blue or yellow).
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    Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Another super pickup Scott!

    Wow - would be cool if you find them all.
    Mike
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    BPorter26BPorter26 Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is a pretty cool project. I can't wait to see the Bobby Layne
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    otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭
    And one more . . .

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    thenavarrothenavarro Posts: 7,497 ✭✭✭
    Scott,

    Nice idea. Are you going to frame them up when you are finished? Those would make a great display.

    Have a good Thanksgiving,

    Mike
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    perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,492 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dam Scott! This is awesome stuff, I love it!
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    otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭
    Notre Dame legend and Heisman Trophy winner . . .

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    otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭
    The Bomber!!!

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    BPorter26BPorter26 Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Scott, the Layne is super sweet. I really enjoy this thread.
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    WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Great idea Scott.

    Thanks for sharing.

    Good for you.
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    FavreFan1971FavreFan1971 Posts: 3,105 ✭✭✭
    Looking great, nice update.
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    otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭
    Two more:

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    SidePocketSidePocket Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭
    This is becoming one of my favorite threads. It must be major detective work to track down these photos.

    "Molon Labe"

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    otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭


    << <i>This is Alot of fun to watch.

    Edit to ask the question: are the wire photos expensive? >>

    @ Matt:

    Most are inexpensive -- averaging about $20-30 per. Occasionally, one will pop up and be priced very high. Seems a lot of archives are being cleaned out, so there has been more available as of late than normal. In another year or two, they'll be very tough to find. This is probably the best time for me to undertake this project. Now, I just need to be more aggressive when some of the keys come up for auction. I forgot to increase my snipe and last night lost out on a Jensen...



    << <i>It must be major detective work to track down these photos. >>

    @ Mark:

    Not really major detective work. Just time consuming searches. I've also been privileged to have a few great guys that have been lifesavers sending me a heads-up when they see a photo that I may need.
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    This is amazing Scott. Do you have a favorite card from the set?
    Looking for 1950 Bowman football PSA 7's
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    otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭
    @ Dave:

    I have several favorites for different rationales. First and foremost is probably Wistert because I've talked to him so many times, he's been such a fantastic guy and is long overdue to be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. But I also like the Bednarik for a multitude of reasons. There are a few others that I really enjoy the photography and look forward to finding the original images.
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    Cool project. I like how most of them look like they might have been taken at a local high school or in someone's backyard...lol.

    I have also noticed the increase in wire photos on eBay the last year or so. There also however seems to be a little increase in demand as it is hard to get cool ones for under $10 anymore, something I use to be able do all the time.

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    stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    THIS is what collecting is all about.

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    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
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    Very cool. Thanks for sharing.
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    BigDaddyBowmanBigDaddyBowman Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭
    Great Idea to supplement the 48 Leaf set! Fun thread to read, thanks for sharing. I seem to remember us doing this type of thing on the "Love the Vintage Football" thread from way back when..,but we were just trying to find photos from the web..not the original wire photo.
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