I think i found someone who is most likely a rip off everyone look!

LAdude465

I just had this conversation with him:

LAdude465: Do you have any jrich cards for trade?
Vins Biggest Fan: sure...
LAdude465: what you got?
Vins Biggest Fan: I have about 50 cards
Vins Biggest Fan: what do you want?
Vins Biggest Fan: I have PSA and BGS graded ones too
LAdude465: you got 50 cards of jrich?
Vins Biggest Fan: at least
LAdude465: do you have any jersey or autos of him?
LAdude465: or #ered rookies?
Vins Biggest Fan: sure
LAdude465: can you list em?
Vins Biggest Fan: SPx, Press Pass, SAGE, Finest Auto, some fleer patch 3 color...lots of auto/jersey
Vins Biggest Fan: I have lots of #'d ones
LAdude465: geez lol
LAdude465: well im pretty sure i cant afford the spx
Vins Biggest Fan: i am looking for very few items
LAdude465: what are you looking for?

Vins Biggest Fan: 2001 SP Football,. 2001 Legendary Cuts baseball, any rare Vin Baker cards i dont have
LAdude465: vin baker is all your looking for in basketball?
Vins Biggest Fan: or any hi dollar cards
LAdude465: do you want a list iof my cards?
Vins Biggest Fan: just the hi dollar stuff
LAdude465: ok whats your email?
Vins Biggest Fan: autographseller@yahoo.com
LAdude465: k hold on
LAdude465: ok i sent it
LAdude465: whats the finest and the 3 color patch of jrich book for?
Vins Biggest Fan: not sure...I think the patch is about 75
LAdude465: ok is it fleer exclusive?
Vins Biggest Fan: yes
LAdude465: o its 60
Vins Biggest Fan: oh..sorry
LAdude465: np
LAdude465: ummmm
LAdude465: whenever i send you an email they send me a mailer demon
LAdude465: saying that i cant send it to you
LAdude465: ill just post my list here
LAdude465: hold on
Vins Biggest Fan: send now
Vins Biggest Fan: i needed to delete emails
LAdude465: ok hold on
LAdude465: ok i sent it
LAdude465: lmk if you see anything you like
Vins Biggest Fan: nothing caught my eye
LAdude465: ok
LAdude465: your looking for baker right?
Vins Biggest Fan: yes
Vins Biggest Fan: rare stuff
LAdude465: ok
Vins Biggest Fan: need lots of 2002 cards
LAdude465: like what?
Vins Biggest Fan: jordan UNC floor is a good one...might be able to use that
LAdude465: did you see my 3 color tinsley>?
Vins Biggest Fan: no
LAdude465: o ok
LAdude465: i have a tinsley like yours
Vins Biggest Fan: sweet
LAdude465: 3 color from fleer exclusive mine has a piece of the collar too
LAdude465: so you need the jrodan?
Vins Biggest Fan: I just pulled a hell of a card
Vins Biggest Fan: ffleer marquee box toppers....
LAdude465: ....
Vins Biggest Fan: Jason kidd jersey/film
LAdude465: nice
Vins Biggest Fan: jersey is the "C" from the Champion logo
LAdude465: how much was the box?
Vins Biggest Fan: serial # is 001/250
LAdude465: damn
Vins Biggest Fan: 110
LAdude465: thats a nice card
LAdude465: ok so you like the jordan right?
Vins Biggest Fan: yeah
LAdude465: what jrich would you give for it?
Vins Biggest Fan: hmmm
Vins Biggest Fan: dont know
LAdude465: cause i liek mostly all of them lol
LAdude465: whats the finest auto book for?
Vins Biggest Fan: not sure...50 i think
LAdude465: would you do that for the jordan?
Vins Biggest Fan: do you send first?
Vins Biggest Fan: I'd rather doa bigger deal
LAdude465: like what kind of a bigger deal?
Vins Biggest Fan: post your best cards on here
LAdude465: lol those were my best cards
LAdude465: i have a small collection
Vins Biggest Fan: you said you had the tinsley...I though there was more you didnt have listed
LAdude465: o crap
LAdude465: my bad
LAdude465: i forgot to send you the other half of the list lol
LAdude465: hold on
Vins Biggest Fan: post it all on here
Vins Biggest Fan: the whonle thing
LAdude465: ok
LAdude465: ok hold on it all wount fit at one time so im going to half to send you like 3 messages hold on
Vins Biggest Fan: ok
LAdude465: here is a list:
00-01 fleer payton jersey not sure on bv
01-02 topps chrome tony parker rc bv 25
00-01 topps francis auto bv 40
00-01 encore andre miller warm up bv 20
00-01 stadium club brian shaw jersey bv 10
00-01 sp miles jersey/floor bv 60
00-01 sp mike miller game floor bv 25
00-01 topps chrome mike miller rookie bv 40
01-02 hardcourt michael finley floor(blue) bv 15
LAdude465: 00-01 spx erik barkley rookie/jersey/auto bv 20(pending)
01-02 ovation jordan unc floor bv 50
01-02 staium club marion warm ups bv 20
99-00 flair feel the game kenny thomas jersey bv 20
01-02 topps chrome eddy curry rookie bv 15
01-02 topps chrome eddie griffin rookie bv 20
01-02 hardcourt kenyon martin film/floor bv 15
01-02 topps chrome steven hunter rookie bv 5
00-01 chrios porter game floor bv 15
LAdude465: 00-01 staium club tony battie jersey bv 15(pending)
01-02 kobe mvp shooting shirt bv
01-02 tinsley fleer jersey 3 colors bv 50
LAdude465: lmk if you see anything you like
Vins Biggest Fan: francis auto, miller chrome. miles jersey floor, jordna floor, kobe shooting shirt, tinsley patch,
LAdude465: ok
LAdude465: sorry the miller is pending
LAdude465: but the rest are free
Vins Biggest Fan: ok
LAdude465: the jrich spx rookie is 200 right?
Vins Biggest Fan: I think so
LAdude465: ok
LAdude465: do you want to make me an offer?
Vins Biggest Fan: what do you want for your cards?
Vins Biggest Fan: if you can send first, I'll offer more
LAdude465: basically any jrich i dont have
LAdude465: hmmmm
Vins Biggest Fan: SPx and Finest auto for the ones I want
LAdude465: the only problem with sending first is....
LAdude465: this is my Whole collection basically and if i lose it my WHOLE collections is gone
LAdude465: can i get some of your refs?
Vins Biggest Fan: I'll throw in an Ultra RC too
Vins Biggest Fan: I dont used refs...I've been in the sportscard and memorabilia business longer than you've been alive
Vins Biggest Fan: i sell to people all over the world...rarely ever any problems
LAdude465: ummm
LAdude465: ok are you apart of any groups?
LAdude465: where do you sell?
LAdude465: ebay?
LAdude465: anything?
Vins Biggest Fan: no, I owned my own store for 15 years
LAdude465: you dont use ebay?
Vins Biggest Fan: i sell on ebay occasionally...getting away from it because of retaliation negative feedback
Vins Biggest Fan: i pay for cards, the wrong ones are send, I leave neg feedback and then they do too even though items are already paid for
Vins Biggest Fan: havent used ebay in a long time
LAdude465: so there is no way you would send first? do you know what collectors universe or traders retreat is?
Vins Biggest Fan: if you dont want to trade, thats OK...I understand that youre worried
Vins Biggest Fan: CU is a joke
LAdude465: did you used to be on cu?
Vins Biggest Fan: no...I know how people boost their ratings though
Vins Biggest Fan: if you want to deal, I need the items before anything gets sent
Vins Biggest Fan: if youre not comfortable, maybe some other time
LAdude465: no ones uses rating on cu, basically if you have been around for a long time and have made good on all of your trades then your a respected member
Vins Biggest Fan: like I said...in the dealer community, Collectors Universe is laughed at
LAdude465: i really am a respected member there i have been around a long time
LAdude465: just curious but what doy uo think of beckett?
Vins Biggest Fan: I dont think youve been selling for over 20 years though
LAdude465: the beckett trading center?
Vins Biggest Fan: beckett is OK...no protection for buyers/sellers/traders
LAdude465: well look at it from my point of view how would i ever know you traded for 20 years?
LAdude465: you have no refs
LAdude465: your just giving me your word
Vins Biggest Fan: Look, I dont think I am gonna change your mind, so it looks like this will be a no go on dealing
LAdude465: i can give you refs and show you how i am respected
Vins Biggest Fan: refs mean nothing
LAdude465: but i mean what can you give to me?
LAdude465: the # to your store?
Vins Biggest Fan: I can get 50 people's email addresses and tell them to say how good a dealer I am when really I am not
LAdude465: but can you do that for a whole board?
Vins Biggest Fan: I sold my store...I am only doing shows and such now
LAdude465: i mean you have to give me something in order for me to want to send first
Vins Biggest Fan: I already offered to give 60.00 more in trade than I am getting
Vins Biggest Fan: I rarely ever do that
Vins Biggest Fan: but you have cards I can use
LAdude465: ok that means absolutely nothing if you dont send the cards lol
Vins Biggest Fan: if youdecide to deal, email me
LAdude465: ok whats your address?
Vins Biggest Fan: you just emailed me lol
Vins Biggest Fan: autographseller@yahoo.com
Vins Biggest Fan: i dont have much time to fool around going back and forth
LAdude465: ok
LAdude465: do you want me to email you?
Vins Biggest Fan: if you decide to deal
LAdude465: yea
LAdude465: ok
LAdude465: ok i sent the email
Vins Biggest Fan: send what?
LAdude465: the trade and i need your addy
Vins Biggest Fan: are you going to trade then?
LAdude465: yea
LAdude465: i guess
Vins Biggest Fan: cool
LAdude465: ok send me your addy
Vins Biggest Fan: i will
LAdude465: ok
Vins Biggest Fan: you left some stuff out
LAdude465: i did?
LAdude465: ok send me the whole deal and your addy
Vins Biggest Fan: oh
Vins Biggest Fan: wait
LAdude465: what?
Vins Biggest Fan: just the miles floor/jersey
LAdude465: o ok
LAdude465: just add it in the email
Vins Biggest Fan: i did
Vins Biggest Fan: email sent
LAdude465: ok
Vins Biggest Fan: thanks for the deal
LAdude465: np
Vins Biggest Fan: I have to get going here in a few moinutes
LAdude465: ok c ya
Vins Biggest Fan: ?
Vins Biggest Fan: thanks
LAdude465: k thanx


His adress is:
Rick Reed
322 1/2 College St
Findlay, OH 45840

what do you guys think? does anyone have any info on him? plmk thanx

ilya

i TRIED dealing with im and he didn't impress me

he said he had a randolph ultra 1/1 when those don't even exist

he makes up a lot of excuses.. oh yeh, he sold the store, doesn't use ebay, and doesn't use refs? what the hell? THAT'S laughed at!


oh yeh, J Rich finest auto? finest isn't even out...

jasong

intresting how he has no refs, questionable, but i guess he sounds ok

jbugs

ilya- ultra does make masterpieces, they arent listed in beckett, but if u search ebay ull probably find a couple.

LADude- i dunno, i think he may be the guy beckett had featured for the best baker collector or whatever. the no refs thing is kinda wierd. i dont know really what to tell u, if u make a deal have him send first!

jasong

i agree with jbug, if your doing a huge deal, i wouldnt send first, just my opinion

ilya

jbugs:

i didn't find any from 01-02.. i know they made them last year

randolph is 01-02 though..

even fleer.com doesn't likst them!

LAdude465

what got me thinking is when he said he had negatives on ebay cause of the retaliation and how he says CU is a joke

cranejoshua

man that was like a two hour conversation!

Undertaker

let's say the randolph exists.. then I still think it's VERY strange that he has it (because he's the one ilya collects) + he has like 50 j-rich cards (including a finest that doesn't exist for sure, cauz the product isn't out yet) who LAdude collects.. that's no coincidence.. this guy's a rip-off for sure

jasong

I dont get why he says CU is a joke, there is so many successful trades happening every day with lots of respected traders.

ejones06

me opinion is he's a bad trader. he's making up this bs stuff, all the cards he said he had arent true, and i can just tell u he's out to rip u off.

how can he not save his ref's? why dont u ask him for his ebay id, beckett, id, etc if he uses it. this guy sounds very suspicious.

LAdude465

thanx for the avdice evryone!

DanishM

i almost made a trade with him for a carter first in flights jersey, but he started swearing at me because i asked for a pic of the card. also, he used the name tom not rick. just to let you guys know

AI3TheAnswer

That dude is a fraud...Your gonna lose your cards if you send...He has a 01'02 Finest Auto of Jason Richardson??? 01'02 Finest is'nt even out yet????...He pulled a Floor?Film Boxtopper of J kidd??? No such thing Floor/Film cards were released in 02' Hardcourt only and that series had no box toppers....Also he said the Kidd card has a piece of Jersey with the Champion logo on it...?#1 why would a floor/film card even have a piece of jersey on it...?#2 The Nets (And especially Kidd) use the Nike NBA Jerseys because of their Nike endorsements ...Only teams ike the Rockets,Sixers etc that have no Nike endorsements use the Champion brand jerseys..

lilsun1

well I noticed a few things:

1) The Finest doesn't exist
2) YOU gave the wrong bv on the SPx JRich it's now 300
3) This guy is a joke, should of said you had a 1/1 Vin Baker and then seen if he'd change his mind about sending first, if he had say you were just kidding... this would establish if he really traded and if he was gonna rip you off

AI3TheAnswer

Hey what im were you using to talk to this fool??..I wanna chat with him and make him cry

LAdude465

lol i was using aim

ilya

he's on AOL IM, mike