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Want to try to guess the TPG grade on this 1808 CBH ? **Grade posted**

JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
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This one is in an older NGC slab and is a tougher coin to grade if you don't know this series, but there are clues.
First generation CBH design that I picked up from a pretty smart guy.
I think NGC got it right by the way.
What say you on this snowy Sunday in the northeast?
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Some coins are just plain "Interesting"

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  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275 ✭
    I know this coin and also believe NGC has the grade correct, so I will refrain from posting a grade.

    Congrats on the very nice NewP image
  • USMoneyloverUSMoneylover Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭
    I'll guess 53. Beautiful coin!
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  • LVGTLVGT Posts: 503 ✭
    PCGS AU53
    NGC AU55
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU 54.739104586+
    I don't want to guess any higher for fear of embarassing myself. image
  • jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU 58, o-102a ?
  • jedmjedm Posts: 3,043 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU 55
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I bet NGC gave it AU-58.
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  • TexasNationalsTexasNationals Posts: 3,837 ✭
    45
  • SamByrdSamByrd Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭✭
    AU50
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll bet the seller priced it one grade higher than they graded it.

    Myself I like it as a AU53.

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  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, it's in the "wrong" holder, no sticker so there must be a reason for this...... right?
    I don't want to guess hi and make it look like I over-graded it, and possibly ruin my online reputation so I say XF-40.
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  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭✭✭
    au50
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,404 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Nice and original, with luster and color!
    Now what do you mean in an older ngc slab.....which one to be exact? >>



    The question is : How much will it cost to get the OP to let go of it ? image
    It looks like AU 62, but if you know NGC and PCGS ... they ain't givin' it up. And that means even if they disagree by 2 to 3 grade points on any particular coin, because of adopting standards. But that's my simple mind thinkin' again.
  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,747 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree with the au62

    otherwise I say 55
    may the fonz be with you...always...
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    and I'm not a proponent of any company, dealing with coins, per se., but enter _ _ _ here ! And this is why I think JA and TDN came into existence with the _ _ _.
    ...but I got no proof. Just what my eyes have been seeing and my ears have been hearing. Just look at the coin.
  • mirabelamirabela Posts: 5,043 ✭✭✭✭✭
    55 or 58. Those things are usually not struck very well.
    mirabela
  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,794 ✭✭✭✭✭
    55

    Tom

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll go along with the AU55 crowd.
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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Well, it's in the "wrong" holder, no sticker so there must be a reason for this...... right?
    I don't want to guess hi and make it look like I over-graded it, and possibly ruin my online reputation so I say XF-40. >>



    Sheesh
    Well it has no sticker cause it has been in the bank box since before the sticker company ever thought about starting a sticker company and it is in the wrong slab because I don't play that game.
    As for your online rep Mr. "use to be" one smart man that stman.....

    And thanks for selling this one to me back in the day you use to know how to grade these... image
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    I call it a Gorgeous AU55!
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  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Well, it's in the "wrong" holder, no sticker so there must be a reason for this...... right?
    I don't want to guess hi and make it look like I over-graded it, and possibly ruin my online reputation so I say XF-40. >>



    Sheesh
    Well it has no sticker cause it has been in the bank box since before the sticker company ever thought about starting a sticker company and it is in the wrong slab because I don't play that game.
    As for your online rep Mr. "use to be" one smart man that stman.....

    And thanks for selling this one to me back in the day you use to know how to grade these... image >>



    image I knew all that which is why I wrote what I did. Man, I do remember this coin. How many years has it been? I liked the coin and found it at a very small show if I recall correctly. Is that the story I told ya?image You were a very smart man to grab it when you did. And I do still know how to grade these. Heh Heh
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  • scoobydeuxscoobydeux Posts: 498 ✭✭
    So, what is the grade.

    P.S.--I think that AU is too generous. I'm in the 35/40 crowd.
    "Discipline is never an end in itself, only a means to an end."
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Alright stman
    My faith in you is restoredimage
    This is my pic and notice how I can't capture the real color of a coin even when I try?
    Sorry Realone but I have no idea which generation NGC holder it is.
    The original pics are by Mark (mgoodm3)
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    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • scoobydeuxscoobydeux Posts: 498 ✭✭
    JR--

    Thanks for posting the grade.

    Can't say that I agree with it, but then, I don't operate a grading service either.image

    "Discipline is never an end in itself, only a means to an end."
  • GoldenEyeNumismaticsGoldenEyeNumismatics Posts: 13,187 ✭✭✭
    55
  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    Man, you did not give us much time to reply on this thread before you spilled the beans on the NGC grade.

    My guess would have been NGC 58, cross currently to PCGS as 53. It is an attractive coin, and I do like it.
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
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  • jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The little bit of the coin that is showing in the slab pic completely reaffirms my grade guess for me.....if not better ( AU 62 for sure). The curls are beautifully struck and the luster looks to be gorgeous.
    Choice 1808 for sure !
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Judging by field luster I would have said AU58 to MS62. I'd be a buyer at the 58 level but not so sure about MS61-62.
    In never considered anything lower than a 58. One can always grade a coin by luster if the strike is throwing you off.

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  • SoCalBigMarkSoCalBigMark Posts: 2,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I grade it freakin awesome despite the pedigree.image
  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agreed with the 58 grade which is why I bought the coin. It is struck soft in some areas, but if I recall the luster supported the grade.
    There is only a touch of rub as well. If it was a lower grade there would be more of a wear pattern on Liberty's face and more broken luster IMO.
    Of course if the owner doesn't like the coin, I would probably bail him out of the coin what he paid me years ago. image That JRocco is a wise man.
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  • breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Grade seems fair to me although not my series. Regardless, I think it's got a great look. Congrats and thanks for sharing.image

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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks guys for the opinions.
    And thank you stman for being there to bail me out of this one if I ever should need bailing out image

    When I knew you had purchased this coin in 58 plastic I knew it had to be solid for the grade because
    I am sure you looked at it for several hours under multiple different light sources and those "stman only"
    geometrically impossible angles using multiple loupes to see if there might be a hairline buried somewhere
    in a recessed area.
    In other words, if it got you to pry open your wallet I knew it was solid for the grade.
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    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,496 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>This one is in an older NGC slab and is a tougher coin to grade if you don't know this series, but there are clues.
    First generation CBH design that I picked up from a pretty smart guy.
    I think NGC got it right by the way.
    What say you on this snowy Sunday in the northeast?
    image
    image
    image >>



    Gorgeous 1808, JRocco...love everything about her...did you post her in the BIG CBH thread before?? image
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey GB
    Thanks. I think I posted her, but it got a little crazy in that
    thread and I lost track of what I had postedimage
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image I don't remember if it had a hairline or not. Now I'm gonna be up all night wondering if I missed something. I was at a show so I could only look for so long at the coin knocking over the dealers lamp twisting the coin and stretching my neck. It's a beauty and a year where nice color doesn't come along too often. Glad you still have it and I knew you would.
    Please... Save The Stories, Just Answer My Questions, And Tell Me How Much!!!!!
  • zap1111zap1111 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭
    It's simply a gorgeous coin. The strike is a bit mushy (pretty normal for the date) but all of the other atonements are wonderful. Just lovely. Thanks for sharing it.
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