1972 topps candy lids

bouwob

any one have any information or more importantly scans?

whats the difference between 72 and 73? Does 1972 really exist?

JoeBanzai

Here's what I found. Article by David Hornish.

1970 Candy Lids (24)

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We're getting into some rarefied air here. This is not to be confused with the more common (relatively speaking) 1973 Candy Lid Issue. These 1 7/8" diameter lids contain a rather large tab and extol Baseball Stars Candy on the reverse. As an added bonus, the backs feature mug shots of Yaz, Seaver and Frank Howard, making these highly attractive and sought after collectables. Full bleed photos on the front help distinguish these from the 1973 issue, which had borders. Other distinguishing differences, 1970 lids have team logos on the players caps, the 73's are airbrushed; only Seaver and Yaz are on the reverse of the 1973 lids; the 73's have smaller tabs and the 70's were candy lids, not gum lids like the 73's.. This was a test issue and today examples are very difficult to find.

1973 Candy Lids (55)

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Three years after they were test-marketed, little tubs of Baseball Stars bubble gum hit the candy counters of America. There sure were differences though. For one thing, candy was replaced by gum, Frank Howard was gone from the reverse of the lid and where oh where were the logos on the caps (more on that in a minute)? At 1 7/8" in diameter these colorful lids are somewhat hard to find, but not overly scarce, which means they must have sold fairly well. But the logos, oi vey! What happened? Well, Topps designed two other sets for actual release in 1973, neither of which saw the light of the candy counter. Both sets had the logos airbrushed off them, just like the candy lids. Even the Yaz and Seaver photos on the lid backs had the logos removed; they were there in 1970. The lone Topps insert for the year were team checklist cards which featured no logos or photos. If you guessed licensing dispute, you guessed right. I would think Topps got into it with Major League Baseball Properties (the Owners) over the rights to use the team logos. They probably also got into it with the player's union over fees (this had happened previously in 1969). The result of all this is that Topps started shutting down production of supplemental and insert sets, putting and end to the most glorious run in the history of bubble gum cards. After 1974 there was the odd set here and there, plus the 1975 minis (Topps reportedly cut production back on the regular set to produce the minis, so the players and Owners probably got nothing extra that year), but nothing of real significance until the Cloth Stickers of 1977. Notice a trend there? 1969, 1973, 1977...1981 also fits the picture. Every four years the players and Owners re-negotiated the Basic Agreement. Topps started turning its attention to producing sets for other distributors like Burger King in the late Seventies, and I would think they had the distributors cut the licensing deals, thereby saving much aggravation. Collectors generally disdain unlicensed sets, which is what Topps was doing in 1973, but when it comes to Topps, almost everything is collectable.



Hope that info helped, scans of my Killebrew's below.

Joe

mlbfan2

Here's a 1972 (test issue).
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jeffcbay

Box 1973 lids on BBCE

bouwob

harmon is included in the population report with 3 graded copies, but it is not part of the mater set. My player has 72 listed and teh guy who has almost everything does not have this card (He also has a card that I 99.9% believe is after market.

I have firm belief that I can send in a 73 as a 72 and eventually get the grade. Obviously I would never do this, but if the set is the same how do you go about getting items removed from the registry?

bouwob

<< <i>Here's a 1972 (test issue).
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according to the post above, how do you distinguish 70 from 72? Does the 70 exist? harmon is in both series and the image example you provided look the same as the 70 series.

NickM

1970s have white for the bottom part of the tab (possibly most of the tab, depending on how they were cut). 1972s are photos all the way down the tab, on the rare occasions that you find a die-cut one. More often, you find a 1972 candy lid still in a card-shape backing, often looking as if the design was dropped haphazardly onto printer's scraps.

Nick