THIS IS A PSA 8.5??? - OPINIONS?
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Saw this in the Goodwin auction and had to question how it ever got the 1/2 point bump?
According to PSA:
Cards that exhibit high-end qualities within each particular grade, between PSA Good 2 and PSA Mint 9, may achieve a half-point increase. While PSA graders will evaluate all of the attributes possessed by a card in order to determine if the card may be eligible, there will be a clear focus on centering.
Generally speaking, a card must exhibit centering that is 5-10% better, at minimum, than the lowest % allowed within a particular grade. It is important to note that there may be cases where the overall strength of the card, such as the quality of the corners and print, will give the card the edge it needs despite the fact that it may exhibit only marginal centering for the grade. This is especially true for cards that find themselves within the bottom half of the PSA 1-10 scale.
Finally, keep in mind that qualifiers will not apply to grades that achieve the half-point increase since, by definition, these cards have to exhibit high-end qualities within the grade in order to warrant consideration. For example, there will not be cards graded PSA NM-MT-Plus 8.5 OC or PSA EX-MT-Plus 6.5 PD since the half-point is reserved for high-end cards within each grade.
So if there is a clear focus on centering then I feel like the L/R centering of this example should probably remove it from being considered for the extra 1/2 point.
The only thing I can guess is that this is a 9 (OC) but it was submitted with a request for "no qualifiers" no it came back as an 8.5.
Any thoughts?
link
http://www.goodwinandco.com/LotDetail.aspx?lotid=21028&searchby=0&searchvalue=None&page=6&sortby=0&displayby=2&lotsperpage=100&category=1&seo=1963-Topps-Rookie-Stars,-Pete-Rose-Rookie-#537-PSA-8.5-NM-MT+
According to PSA:
Cards that exhibit high-end qualities within each particular grade, between PSA Good 2 and PSA Mint 9, may achieve a half-point increase. While PSA graders will evaluate all of the attributes possessed by a card in order to determine if the card may be eligible, there will be a clear focus on centering.
Generally speaking, a card must exhibit centering that is 5-10% better, at minimum, than the lowest % allowed within a particular grade. It is important to note that there may be cases where the overall strength of the card, such as the quality of the corners and print, will give the card the edge it needs despite the fact that it may exhibit only marginal centering for the grade. This is especially true for cards that find themselves within the bottom half of the PSA 1-10 scale.
Finally, keep in mind that qualifiers will not apply to grades that achieve the half-point increase since, by definition, these cards have to exhibit high-end qualities within the grade in order to warrant consideration. For example, there will not be cards graded PSA NM-MT-Plus 8.5 OC or PSA EX-MT-Plus 6.5 PD since the half-point is reserved for high-end cards within each grade.
So if there is a clear focus on centering then I feel like the L/R centering of this example should probably remove it from being considered for the extra 1/2 point.
The only thing I can guess is that this is a 9 (OC) but it was submitted with a request for "no qualifiers" no it came back as an 8.5.
Any thoughts?
link
http://www.goodwinandco.com/LotDetail.aspx?lotid=21028&searchby=0&searchvalue=None&page=6&sortby=0&displayby=2&lotsperpage=100&category=1&seo=1963-Topps-Rookie-Stars,-Pete-Rose-Rookie-#537-PSA-8.5-NM-MT+
Dave
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more than anything else, i can't deal with the white tips on the blue at the top.
if the card fits within all parameters, then the grade makes sense.
i've seen a world of variations within the point 5 system, and centering is NOT the only consideration being applied.
That card IN MY Opinion is the ONLY reason that PSA should use the 1/2 point system. That is one of the clearest examples of an 8.5+ I think is out there. Absolutely spot on Grading !!!
Neil
you can no longer touch it. but that aspect counts BIG in grading.
that's why, regardless of any conjecture we share here, there is absolutely nothing like having any or all of those slabs in hand. or any other card from any other thread.
it would then be much easier to justify or NOT justify the assigned grade.
Joe