The ultimate Frank Thomas question

Dakillo

Look at the stats on any Frank Thomas card...it will show 145 games played in the '95 season.

The following question has been asked of at least two dozen people well versed in recent baseball history. Even with unlimited time to research, there has still not been a satisfactory answer:

How is it possible that Frank Thomas was credited with 145 games played in 1995?

Simple question right? A couple of factual notes:

1. His team, the White Sox, finished the year 68-76 (thats only 144 games)
2. There was a single one game playoff in 1995; but NOT involving Thomas or the White Sox

I don't know the answer, but am still looking for anyone to offer a plausible explanation.

Dialj

Game Number 72 was considered a tie with the Yankees.

1995 Chicago White Sox Official

Complete Schedule


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Game Date / Box Score Opponent Score Decision Record
1 04-26-1995 at Milwaukee Brewers 3-12 L 0-1
2 04-27-1995 vs Milwaukee Brewers 4-9 L 0-2
3 04-28-1995 at Boston Red Sox 4-10 L 0-3
4 04-29-1995 at Boston Red Sox 0-8 L 0-4
5 04-30-1995 at Boston Red Sox 17-11 W 1-4
6 05-02-1995 at Toronto Blue Jays 8-9 L 1-5
7 05-03-1995 at Toronto Blue Jays 7-8 L 1-6
8 05-05-1995 vs Kansas City Royals 1-3 L 1-7
9 05-06-1995 vs Kansas City Royals 7-4 W 2-7
10 05-07-1995 vs Kansas City Royals 5-7 L 2-8
11 05-08-1995 vs Minnesota Twins 4-2 W 3-8
12 05-09-1995 vs Minnesota Twins 6-1 W 4-8
13 05-10-1995 vs Minnesota Twins 8-7 W 5-8
14 05-12-1995 at Seattle Mariners 4-6 L 5-9
15 05-13-1995 at Seattle Mariners 5-6 L 5-10
16 05-14-1995 at Seattle Mariners 10-2 W 6-10
17 05-16-1995 vs Oakland Athletics 1-7 L 6-11
18 05-17-1995 vs Oakland Athletics 6-4 W 7-11
19 05-18-1995 vs Oakland Athletics 4-2 W 8-11
20 05-19-1995 vs California Angels 5-6 L 8-12
21 05-20-1995 vs California Angels 5-7 L 8-13
22 05-21-1995 vs California Angels 6-8 L 8-14
23-I 05-24-1995 vs Texas Rangers 10-8 W 9-14
24-II 05-24-1995 vs Texas Rangers 6-13 L 9-15
25 05-26-1995 at Detroit Tigers 7-8 L 9-16
26 05-27-1995 at Detroit Tigers 1-0 W 10-16
27 05-28-1995 at Detroit Tigers 14-12 W 11-16
28 05-29-1995 at Cleveland Indians 6-7 L 11-17
29 05-30-1995 at Cleveland Indians 1-2 L 11-18
30 05-31-1995 at Cleveland Indians 3-6 L 11-19
31 06-01-1995 at Cleveland Indians 4-7 L 11-20
32 06-02-1995 vs Detroit Tigers 5-4 W 12-20
33 06-03-1995 vs Detroit Tigers 10-6 W 13-20
34 06-04-1995 vs Detroit Tigers 5-8 L 13-21
35 06-05-1995 vs Toronto Blue Jays 3-2 W 14-21
36 06-06-1995 vs Toronto Blue Jays 6-4 W 15-21
37 06-07-1995 vs Toronto Blue Jays 3-4 L 15-22
38 06-09-1995 at Texas Rangers 1-6 L 15-23
39 06-11-1995 at Texas Rangers 2-3 L 15-24
40 06-12-1995 at Oakland Athletics 0-1 L 15-25
41 06-13-1995 at Oakland Athletics 7-6 W 16-25
42 06-14-1995 at Oakland Athletics 5-8 L 16-26
43 06-15-1995 at California Angels 1-5 L 16-27
44 06-17-1995 at California Angels 3-4 L 16-28
45 06-18-1995 at California Angels 4-8 L 16-29
46 06-19-1995 vs Seattle Mariners 8-6 W 17-29
47 06-20-1995 vs Seattle Mariners 5-9 L 17-30
48 06-21-1995 vs Seattle Mariners 5-4 W 18-30
49 06-22-1995 vs Seattle Mariners 2-3 L 18-31
50 06-23-1995 vs Cleveland Indians 12-5 W 19-31
51 06-24-1995 vs Cleveland Indians 8-3 W 20-31
52 06-25-1995 vs Cleveland Indians 3-2 W 21-31
53 06-26-1995 at Minnesota Twins 6-5 W 22-31
54 06-27-1995 at Minnesota Twins 8-6 W 23-31
55 06-28-1995 at Minnesota Twins 4-3 W 24-31
56 06-29-1995 at Milwaukee Brewers 17-13 W 25-31
57 06-30-1995 at Kansas City Royals 0-1 L 25-32
58 07-01-1995 at Kansas City Royals 11-5 W 26-32
59 07-02-1995 at Kansas City Royals 6-5 W 27-32
60 07-03-1995 vs New York Yankees 4-8 L 27-33
61 07-04-1995 vs New York Yankees 1-4 L 27-34
62 07-05-1995 vs New York Yankees 11-5 W 28-34
63 07-06-1995 vs Baltimore Orioles 1-2 L 28-35
64 07-07-1995 vs Baltimore Orioles 2-5 L 28-36
65 07-08-1995 vs Baltimore Orioles 2-5 L 28-37
66 07-09-1995 vs Baltimore Orioles 2-11 L 28-38
67 07-12-1995 vs Milwaukee Brewers 8-2 W 29-38
68 07-13-1995 at Milwaukee Brewers 7-8 L 29-39
69 07-14-1995 at Milwaukee Brewers 7-8 L 29-40
70 07-15-1995 at Milwaukee Brewers 5-9 L 29-41
71 07-16-1995 at Milwaukee Brewers 1-6 L 29-42
72 07-17-1995 at New York Yankees 1-1 T 29-42-1
73-I 07-18-1995 at New York Yankees 9-4 W 30-42-1
74-II 07-18-1995 at New York Yankees 11-4 W 31-42-1
75 07-19-1995 vs Boston Red Sox 3-5 L 31-43-1
76 07-20-1995 vs Boston Red Sox 1-3 L 31-44-1
77 07-21-1995 vs Milwaukee Brewers 2-5 L 31-45-1
78 07-22-1995 vs Milwaukee Brewers 4-2 W 32-45-1
79 07-23-1995 vs Milwaukee Brewers 11-6 W 33-45-1
80 07-25-1995 at Boston Red Sox 8-3 W 34-45-1
81 07-26-1995 at Boston Red Sox 3-5 L 34-46-1
82 07-27-1995 at Boston Red Sox 5-4 W 35-46-1
83 07-28-1995 at Baltimore Orioles 3-4 L 35-47-1
84 07-29-1995 at Baltimore Orioles 7-4 W 36-47-1
85 07-30-1995 at Baltimore Orioles 3-8 L 36-48-1
86 07-31-1995 vs Kansas City Royals 6-4 W 37-48-1
87 08-01-1995 vs Kansas City Royals 4-3 W 38-48-1
88 08-02-1995 vs Kansas City Royals 5-2 W 39-48-1
89 08-03-1995 vs Kansas City Royals 0-9 L 39-49-1
90 08-04-1995 at Cleveland Indians 3-13 L 39-50-1
91 08-05-1995 at Cleveland Indians 7-11 L 39-51-1
92 08-06-1995 at Cleveland Indians 5-1 W 40-51-1
93 08-07-1995 at Seattle Mariners 4-6 L 40-52-1
94 08-08-1995 at Seattle Mariners 9-10 L 40-53-1
95 08-09-1995 at Seattle Mariners 8-11 L 40-54-1
96 08-11-1995 vs Oakland Athletics 13-5 W 41-54-1
97 08-12-1995 vs Oakland Athletics 2-8 L 41-55-1
98 08-13-1995 vs Oakland Athletics 8-7 W 42-55-1
99 08-14-1995 vs California Angels 10-11 L 42-56-1
100 08-15-1995 vs California Angels 3-7 L 42-57-1
101 08-16-1995 vs California Angels 9-2 W 43-57-1
102 08-17-1995 vs Texas Rangers 1-2 L 43-58-1
103 08-18-1995 vs Texas Rangers 3-1 W 44-58-1
104 08-19-1995 vs Texas Rangers 6-9 L 44-59-1
105 08-20-1995 vs Texas Rangers 4-6 L 44-60-1
106 08-21-1995 at Detroit Tigers 7-3 W 45-60-1
107 08-22-1995 at Detroit Tigers 15-7 W 46-60-1
108 08-23-1995 at Detroit Tigers 5-7 L 46-61-1
109 08-25-1995 at Toronto Blue Jays 8-7 W 47-61-1
110 08-26-1995 at Toronto Blue Jays 2-3 L 47-62-1
111 08-27-1995 at Toronto Blue Jays 1-2 L 47-63-1
112 08-28-1995 vs Milwaukee Brewers 6-5 W 48-63-1
113 08-29-1995 vs Detroit Tigers 5-7 L 48-64-1
114 08-30-1995 vs Detroit Tigers 10-7 W 49-64-1
115 08-31-1995 vs Detroit Tigers 9-0 W 50-64-1
116 09-01-1995 vs Toronto Blue Jays 5-3 W 51-64-1
117 09-02-1995 vs Toronto Blue Jays 10-4 W 52-64-1
118 09-03-1995 vs Toronto Blue Jays 6-5 W 53-64-1
119 09-04-1995 at Texas Rangers 14-3 W 54-64-1
120 09-05-1995 at Texas Rangers 2-1 W 55-64-1
121 09-06-1995 at Texas Rangers 7-5 W 56-64-1
122 09-07-1995 at Texas Rangers 0-2 L 56-65-1
123 09-08-1995 at Oakland Athletics 7-3 W 57-65-1
124 09-09-1995 at Oakland Athletics 2-8 L 57-66-1
125 09-10-1995 at Oakland Athletics 5-3 W 58-66-1
126 09-11-1995 at California Angels 1-4 L 58-67-1
127 09-12-1995 at California Angels 1-3 L 58-68-1
128 09-13-1995 at California Angels 6-1 W 59-68-1
129 09-15-1995 vs Seattle Mariners 2-3 L 59-69-1
130 09-16-1995 vs Seattle Mariners 3-5 L 59-70-1
131 09-17-1995 vs Seattle Mariners 2-1 W 60-70-1
132 09-18-1995 vs Cleveland Indians 1-11 L 60-71-1
133 09-19-1995 vs Cleveland Indians 2-8 L 60-72-1
134 09-20-1995 vs Cleveland Indians 4-3 W 61-72-1
135 09-21-1995 vs Milwaukee Brewers 5-1 W 62-72-1
136 09-22-1995 at Minnesota Twins 5-4 W 63-72-1
137 09-23-1995 at Minnesota Twins 14-4 W 64-72-1
138 09-24-1995 at Minnesota Twins 3-4 L 64-73-1
139 09-25-1995 at Minnesota Twins 1-6 L 64-74-1
140 09-26-1995 at Kansas City Royals 7-0 W 65-74-1
141 09-27-1995 at Kansas City Royals 6-0 W 66-74-1
142 09-28-1995 at Kansas City Royals 0-4 L 66-75-1
143 09-29-1995 vs Minnesota Twins 4-3 W 67-75-1
144 09-30-1995 vs Minnesota Twins 6-7 L 67-76-1
145 10-01-1995 vs Minnesota Twins 2-1 W 68-76-1

jradke4

well i think that settles the great Frank Thomas debate!!

QUITCRAB

How do you tie in baseball ?

itzagoner

<< <i>How do you tie in baseball ? >>



call it an All-Star Game and let Bud make it a dud.

pebblyjack

The "tie" game in question was called on account of rain with the score tied 1-1 in the bottom of the 7th. Since it went beyond 5 innings, it was an "official" game and all stats counted. Since there was no winner of the game, they replayed the game as part of a double header the following day. Thus, the White Sox and Yankees each played one more game than the standings show in 1995.

In 1967 Cesar Tovar of the Minnesota Twins is credited with playing in 164 games, despite the fact that the Twins only played 162 games that year. They had two games end in ties when they were rained out after the 5th inning with the scores of those games tied. Tovar holds the American League record for games played in a season.

Thanks

Randy

FavreFan1971

Stupid baseball stat. So if a game gets "delayed" by weather and they play the remainder another day they get credit for an extra game. Just stupid.

So, if the NFL has a game called at halftime due to lightning, and they finish the game the next day does the nfl give them credit for two games? NO! It is still the same game. Dear God! Why am I so pissed at this????

bking

<< <i>Stupid baseball stat. So if a game gets "delayed" by weather and they play the remainder another day they get credit for an extra game. Just stupid.

So, if the NFL has a game called at halftime due to lightning, and they finish the game the next day does the nfl give them credit for two games? NO! It is still the same game. Dear God! Why am I so pissed at this???? >>



That's not correct; if a game is delayed and then resumed at that point, they don't count it as two games.

"But that's not what baseball do". They restart the game from the beginning, so the stats for the incomplete game have to go somewhere, as do the stats for the entire makeup game. You can make a strong case that the stats from the suspended game should be discarded, but baseball decided a long time ago not to do that.

pebblyjack

It's slightly different than that. They don't play the "remainder" another day and give credit for two games played. Rather, they play a whole new game some other day.

A game is official once 5 innings are completed (or 4 1/2 if the home team is ahead). If the game is called after 5 innings without a winner, then it is a "tie" game, but everything that occurred in the game counts. Since there are no "ties" in baseball, they replay the game from the beginning some other time.

It's a relic from the days before they had lights. Many games were suspended on account of darkness and that was how they handled it. They just applied the same rule to rain-outs. I would guess if they were making the rule now they would probably choose to simply pick up the game where it leaves off and call it one game. In any event, that is how many baseball leagues handle it.

Thanks

Randy

FavreFan1971

I told you I was overreacting on this.

bking

<< <i>I told you I was overreacting on this. >>



That's nothing. get me started someday on why they have to throw 4 pitches to intentionally walk someone, or why NFL officials eyeball the spot on tackles, etc yet measure to the inch for 1st downs.