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CakesCakes Posts: 3,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
Some people in my circle of friends have mentioned they have silver to sell. I explain I am a novice and only buy at spot prices. I would generally print from the following site the day of a sale:

http://www.coinflation.com/

what percentage under spot do you pay, 10%?

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Some people in my circle of friends have mentioned they have silver to sell. I explain I am a novice and only buy at spot prices. I would generally print from the following site the day of a sale:

    http://www.coinflation.com/

    what percentage under spot do you pay, 10%? >>




    spot minus $.50 to $1.00 depending exactly what it is. MJ
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  • Doesn't matter what you pay for it but when you go to sell it to make a profit the dealers will screw you anyways
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,491 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Some people in my circle of friends have mentioned they have silver to sell. I explain I am a novice and only buy at spot prices. I would generally print from the following site the day of a sale:

    http://www.coinflation.com/

    what percentage under spot do you pay, 10%? >>

    10% sounds reasonable.

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  • << <i>Doesn't matter what you pay for it but when you go to sell it to make a profit the dealers will screw you anyways >>



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  • << <i>Doesn't matter what you pay for it but when you go to sell it to make a profit the dealers will screw you anyways >>



    Try Apmex they usually buy at $1.00 behind spot for generic and pay above spot for engelhard and Johnson Matthey
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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Doesn't matter what you pay for it but when you go to sell it to make a profit the dealers will screw you anyways >>



    Try Apmex they usually buy at $1.00 behind spot for generic and pay above spot for engelhard and Johnson Matthey >>



    CNI will buy at $.40 to $.60 back of spot. There have been times when I've sold to Silver Towne or a local dealer at spot. MJ
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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,794 ✭✭✭✭✭



    CNI will buy at $.40 to $.60 back of spot. There have been times when I've sold to Silver Towne or a local dealer at spot. MJ


    OP is buying silver not selling. Makes no sense to buy at .40 back of spot to sell at spot. OP is an individual not a B&M.

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>CNI will buy at $.40 to $.60 back of spot. There have been times when I've sold to Silver Towne or a local dealer at spot. MJ


    OP is buying silver not selling. Makes no sense to buy at .40 back of spot to sell at spot. OP is an individual not a B&M.

    bob >>



    I agree Bob. I wasn't quoting the OP. I was quoting the poster above me and answering him. I already gave my answer in the second post.
    spot minus $.50 to $1.00 depending exactly what it is. Otherwise his friends should just sell to CNI, APMEX, etc for $.40 to $1.00 back of spot depending of of on quantities. MJ
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  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Doesn't matter what you pay for it but when you go to sell it to make a profit the dealers will screw you anyways >>



    Sounds like this troll needs to back up his statement with some evidence.

    Buy prices depend on resale demand. If 90% can be easily sold then 10% back is reasonable. If the bags are not selling then something farther back from that.
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  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭
    I tried to sell some bulk silver, 40% halves and the like, and the dealer I went to wouldn't do any better than 40-60% of melt.

    I still have the silver.


  • << <i>Some people in my circle of friends have mentioned they have silver to sell. I explain I am a novice and only buy at spot prices. I would generally print from the following site the day of a sale: >>

    Get an average of the last two weeks then 5-10% back then sell on the up swing.
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I tried to sell some bulk silver, 40% halves and the like, and the dealer I went to wouldn't do any better than 40-60% of melt.

    I still have the silver. >>



    40% silver is very very tough. The market for these is sleepy, very sleepy. 40-60% of melt on 90% is nuts if 90% was indeed part of your bulk silver example. On 90% silver you could get close to spot or spot on the BST or 96% of spot or better from most of the big PM dealers. Again, some dealers have minimums. The BST does not. MJ
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  • Certain types of 90% sell for over spot...
    10% back is fair, 5% back is too tight
  • Personally, whenever friends want to buy/sell silver, I just pass on whatever prices I get, but that's just a personal preference. Acquaintances are a different story. The market is weird right now, everything in the coins, rounds and bars category is going over spot except for 40%, war nickels, some sterling, and foreign junk.
  • droopyddroopyd Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭
    There's a guy here in LA who regularly pays $2 back of spot, as of today that's 6.4% back.
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  • CakesCakes Posts: 3,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    more like acquaintances to semi friends but either way I have a much better guage on what to pay.

    Thanks,

    BC
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  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I tried to sell some bulk silver, 40% halves and the like, and the dealer I went to wouldn't do any better than 40-60% of melt.

    I still have the silver. >>



    40% silver is very very tough. The market for these is sleepy, very sleepy. 40-60% of melt on 90% is nuts if 90% was indeed part of your bulk silver example. On 90% silver you could get close to spot or spot on the BST or 96% of spot or better from most of the big PM dealers. Again, some dealers have minimums. The BST does not. MJ >>



    Thank you for your comments. The lot I had was mostly 40%. Maybe that's why the guy wouldn't pay much for it. There was some 90% in there though. I may go back later with the information you've given me and think more kindly of a low offer for the 40%-ers.
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,385 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I tried to sell some bulk silver, 40% halves and the like, and the dealer I went to wouldn't do any better than 40-60% of melt.

    I still have the silver. >>



    40% silver is very very tough. The market for these is sleepy, very sleepy. 40-60% of melt on 90% is nuts if 90% was indeed part of your bulk silver example. On 90% silver you could get close to spot or spot on the BST or 96% of spot or better from most of the big PM dealers. Again, some dealers have minimums. The BST does not. MJ >>




    true true


    90%, sterling and "pure" are what we are talking about.

    40% is a totally different animal. Because of it's low purity, there is lower demand for it and prices are not nearly as strong as the 90%, sterling, "pure."


    sell the 40% separately from the rest.

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  • hammered54hammered54 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭
    use Kitco for up to date selling prices.
    https://online.kitco.com/refining/refining_USD.html.

    20 x face for 90%.
    8 X face for 40%.
    as of right now.
    works for me.... and it seems it's what most of the B&M's around me will use.
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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I tried to sell some bulk silver, 40% halves and the like, and the dealer I went to wouldn't do any better than 40-60% of melt.

    I still have the silver. >>



    40% silver is very very tough. The market for these is sleepy, very sleepy. 40-60% of melt on 90% is nuts if 90% was indeed part of your bulk silver example. On 90% silver you could get close to spot or spot on the BST or 96% of spot or better from most of the big PM dealers. Again, some dealers have minimums. The BST does not. MJ >>



    Thank you for your comments. The lot I had was mostly 40%. Maybe that's why the guy wouldn't pay much for it. There was some 90% in there though. I may go back later with the information you've given me and think more kindly of a low offer for the 40%-ers. >>



    There is about $4.70 worth of silver in 40% half. I would expect to get around $4- $4.30 per half from a larger dealer depending on his inventory and size of the deal. I don't deal in 40% that often but I just did a back of the envelop calculation based off of CNI's buy price at $8550 a $1000 face bag and lowered it for a smaller amount........Hope this helps. MJ
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  • USMarine6USMarine6 Posts: 1,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I love buying in bulk. You never know what you will come across. I recently purchased $75 face value worth of junk silver and it had a 62 and 63 frankilin half cut out of their mint sets and they were still in the plastic.
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,794 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I love buying in bulk. You never know what you will come across. I recently purchased $75 face value worth of junk silver and it had a 62 and 63 frankilin half cut out of their mint sets and they were still in the plastic. >>



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  • CakesCakes Posts: 3,650 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I love buying in bulk. You never know what you will come across. I recently purchased $75 face value worth of junk silver and it had a 62 and 63 frankilin half cut out of their mint sets and they were still in the plastic. >>



    Welcome to the forum Marine, my son is currently in boot.
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