Thoughts on this Toned Morgan

WingedLiberty1957

I know this is a PCGS board but wanted some advice on an NGC graded Morgan.

I bought this coin (with a 3 day return) but havent seen it in hand yet.

I was wondering if any of the experts had opinons on the light colored stripe down the middle of the coin on the obverse.

I thought it might be left over from scotch tape ... however the right edge is a bit fuzzier and the rhs border doesnt extend all the way down the coin

I also wondered if it was simply a left over signature from a piece of paper or paper envelope resting on the coin at some point

I can't believe that coin doctors (AT'ers) would be so careless as to leave a straight border on the coin, but who knows

It's interesting that the rainbow rim toning on the lower left obverse goes through the hard border (although there does appear to be some slight discontinuities ... so at least some of the toning on this coin occurred after the obstruction was removed

Any thoughts on this coin and the straight line?

By the way, just in terms of marks (and the clean cheek) this coin looks a bit undergraded to me (but may have been penalized for the stripe)

P.S.

I bought the coin because I thought the toning was really pretty, even with the stripe -- but was curious to get some thoughts from experts on what might have caused it and if this coin might be AT'd)

Also I would be curious to know if you thought PCGS would grade it, or would they body bag it

Finally, give a thumbs up or thumbs down vote on whether you think the coin is attractive and market acceptible.

coinkid855

I like it! I vote NT. I say the really pretty edge toning at 7 on the obverse happened before that piece of whatever, likely paper, caused the secondary toning to not tone that part of the obverse.



-Paul

coinkid855

Also, It looks like a 64 to me. The cheek looks nicer than a 63.




-Paul

coastaljerseyguy

Looks NT to me, and maybe an end roll coin also.

Tiny

Look real nice in the pictures but it won't look that good in hand.
You'll have to hold it just right to see those colors.

Pokermandude

Absolutely NT. And I'm surprised it's not a 64.

kryptonitecomics

No question NT bag toner......the line might be secondary toning once the coin was removed from that bag so it could have come from say an album or roll but the rainbow color and untoned pull away shadow leave little doubt in my mind the coin is NT. The fact that the back is lightly toned might further support the album theory as typically a bag toned Morgan will be blast white on one side so if that was the case with this coin and it was placed in one of those albums with the plastic stips that hold the coin in that could easily explain that untoned or lesser toned strip running across the coin. I would guess that when this coin was placed in the album it was virtually blast white except for the rainbow toning at the bottom of the obverse. The rest of the orange/blue toning on both sides probably came from the secondary storage method.

LeeBone

DoubleEagle59

Definitely not worse than a 63. Very nice coin and welcome!!

I think it may have muted luster (along with very minor chattering of the cheek) and that's why it received the 63, because at quick glance it looks better.

LanceNewmanOCC

<< <i>Absolutely NT. And I'm surprised it's not a 64. >>

morgansforever

Very nice attractive toning. Excellent pics too!

roadrunner

Very nice original toner. But I wouldn't get carried away about paying a big premium for it. It's got very attractive color by probably not killer enough to warrant more than
about a 50-100% premium imo. I'd rather pay pretty close to 63+ money. Interesting that NGC didn't * it.

roadrunner

Justacommeman

You can't spell NeaT without the NT.

MJ

DorkGirl

It looks like she kept falling out of an old Whitman album and someone strapped her in.....

anablep

Nice coin! I'm surprised at the 63, but maybe the flash is not there for a 64...

RCDB

Very nice. It looks like it had some bag toning on it before it wound up on the end of a roll.

Meltdown

That's a gorgeous morgan! If you decide you don't want it, let me know!

blu62vette

I think I will be odd man out here. Not a huge fan of the obverse color. I would like the lower field color or the stripe but not both, a little to much going on for me. I find the reverse attractive.

Did you buy it or get it on approval? You mention both, but they are 2 different things. Sounds like you bought it but can return.

I think it is NT, I think PCGS would grade it.

WingedLiberty1957

Thanks to everyone for all the feedback and comments --- ALL VERY HELPFUL!!!

The comment about being "strapped in" was funny.

Yes, I am not sure I used the right term (about approval) sorry. I bought it and have 3 days to return it if I dont like it in hand.

Something about this one just appealed to me (from the photo at least) -- but it's always hard to tell about a coin from a single photo.

To the person (meltdown) that said they wanted it if I didn't want it, you are #1 on a short list ... will let you know by PM if it becomes available (and what it looks like in hand).

By the way ... if the stripe was caused by scotch tape and if there is some residue still on the coin, would PCGS still grade it as market acceptible? Or would that be considered some sort of "damage" requiring conservation to remove the residue before PCGS would grade. Thanks

(By the way, I have bought several coins from this seller before and his photos are usually pretty close to capturing the live coin (but perhaps very slightly too bright and very slightly too saturated)

metalmeister

Cheek looks better than 63!

coinlieutenant

Very nice...

MICHAELDIXON

Beautiful, NT coin!

bestclser1

NT,looks like its got a shot to 64,and yes,PCGS will grade it.If you didnt pay too much,its cool coin.

uofa1285

It certainly was "strapped in" at one time, but not glued or taped. I've seen that pattern over the years...it was held in a book most likely years after the bag toning. In this case, the second toning does not distract from the bag toning...I like it!

Congrats!

Doug

Edited to add that chatter above the eye keeps it in a 63, but really not a big deal since the coin's real value is the eye appeal of the toning.