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Interesting "Henning" nickel on Ebay

This just looks strange. If doesn't look like any of the Henning's I own. In fact, it looks like it's silver. And it may just be my mind playing tricks on me, but I can almost see the remains of a P on the reverse.

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Funny if it turned out to be a counterfeit of a counterfeit nickel...

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  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That coin does not have the look of a Henning counterfeit. It may have been struck with a filled or partially filled mintmark.
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  • MedalCollectorMedalCollector Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks silver to me too! That will be one expensive war nickel.
  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,485 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Have you contacted the seller?

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  • mingotmingot Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭
    Lots going on there.

    In addition to the missing mintmark it is also missing "five cents" and "monticello". neither of these being missing is consistent with the level of wear on the coin.
  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,553 ✭✭✭✭✭
    WOW!!!!! If a Henning Nickel that was put into circulation at 5c face value sells for $56.55 on eBay today I wonder what Dan Carr Fantasy Coins will be selling for in a few years image

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  • SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,565 ✭✭✭✭✭
    On the genuine Henning nickels the R in E PLURIBUS UNUM has a bit of a loop back to the vertical part of the letter from the hook of the R. This piece doesn't have that, does look like it is silver and appears to have had the large P removed from where the mintmark belongs. So it is a counterfeit of a counterfeit.
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  • mingotmingot Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭


    << <i>On the genuine Henning nickels the R in E PLURIBUS UNUM has a bit of a loop back to the vertical part of the letter from the hook of the R. This piece doesn't have that, does look like it is silver and appears to have had the large P removed from where the mintmark belongs. So it is a counterfeit of a counterfeit. >>



    From what I understand, not all of them have the looped R. I have two with and one without (1944). At some point I will get an accurate weight on the one without and verify that way.
  • On the genuine Henning nickels the R in E PLURIBUS UNUM has a bit of a loop back to the vertical part of the letter from the hook of the R. This piece doesn't have that, does look like it is silver and appears to have had the large P removed from where the mintmark belongs. So it is a counterfeit of a counterfeit.

    Not true, I have 7 1944-P (No-P) Hennings and 5 of 7 have the die marker, but 2 do not and they are legit Hennings.


  • WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
    I'm not even convinced it's a 1944
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  • EdscoinEdscoin Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm not even convinced it's a 1944 >>


    I agree, looks like a damaged 1941.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,291 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>........and they are legit Hennings. >>



    How can you be sure? Did you have them authenticated as being genuine counterfeits?

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  • DuPapaDuPapa Posts: 495 ✭✭
    This Henning no loop in R weighs 5.56 grams... what does a real war nickel weigh? 5 grams, right?

    Henning claims to have made 6 different reverse dies to go with the 6 different obverse dies. But the hole in the R seems to be the most common.
    Besides the 44 no P, which got him caught, he also made counterfeit nickels dated 1939, 1946, 1947 and 1953 which are hard to find with the only the holey R variaty being easy to spot.

    It is estimated that more than 100,000 of Henning's nickels reached circulation. Henning dumped another 200,000 nickels in Copper Creek, New Jersey, of which only 14,000 were recovered. Another 200,000 are thought to have been dumped in the Schuylkill River. It is claimed he had bought his metal from the same source as the mint paying approximately 3 1/2 cents per blank. Leftover blanks seized from him were actually coined into legal nickels at the Philadelphia Mint in 1956, after adding the required amount of nickel....

    When caught, Henning was sentenced to 3 years in jail, and had to pay a $5,000 fine.

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  • The OP's coin is a common war nickel with the MM removed/missing.

    Garrow
  • coolestcoolest Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭
    that one is now over $50
    I dont think I could get anyone to offer $10 the the one I have
  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,485 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The OP's coin is a common war nickel with the MM removed/missing.

    Garrow >>



    I agree with Garrow on this one! 1944-P nickel with very weak P mintmark.

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  • PH, the weight is a dead give-a-way and they are not silver. Also the articles on Henning counterfeits mention these.
  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    wow I think thats the one I linked the other day for someone on the BST

    oops, I really did not pay attention to the list, actually
    did not care enough to look.
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