eBay has a "Coin Community Watch group"?
DennisH
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I reported a fake coin listed for sale on eBay yesterday and today (wow!) I got this reply:
I've forwarded this listing to the Coin Community Watch group. They agreed that the coin is a replica and I have removed it from the site.
eBay has a "Coin Community Watch group"? I had not heard of this before. Has anyone else? How long has this been going on? Is anyone here a member? I told the person at eBay I'd like to volunteer.
I've forwarded this listing to the Coin Community Watch group. They agreed that the coin is a replica and I have removed it from the site.
eBay has a "Coin Community Watch group"? I had not heard of this before. Has anyone else? How long has this been going on? Is anyone here a member? I told the person at eBay I'd like to volunteer.
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They cannot shut down auctions on their own but their reports bypass all the red tape and get acted on quickly, no questions asked.
Lance.
So Ebay charges obscene fees and then expects their "watch groups" to do their job?
Obviously some folks enjoy bashing ebay and there's plenty to complain about, no doubt. But leaning on "experts" outside ebay to weed-out counterfeits is the only practical way to go. The number and kinds of counterfeit goods is staggering. Coins are a small part.
Lance.
<< <i>It's technically no longer called Community Watch. It is "Enhanced Member Reporting".
Obviously some folks enjoy bashing ebay and there's plenty to complain about, no doubt. But leaning on "experts" outside ebay to weed-out counterfeits is the only practical way to go. The number and kinds of counterfeit goods is staggering. Coins are a small part.
Lance. >>
Ebay just reported $3 billion dollars in revenues and $491 million dollars in profits this past quarter alone, maybe they could afford to hire and pay their own team of "experts"?
<< <i>Ebay just reported $3 billion dollars in revenues and $491 million dollars in profits this past quarter alone, maybe they could afford to hire and pay their own team of "experts"? >>
hey it is really expensive having a few private jets, couple dozen vacation homes, and personal aides for the top shareholders and brass
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<< <i>It's technically no longer called Community Watch. It is "Enhanced Member Reporting".
Obviously some folks enjoy bashing ebay and there's plenty to complain about, no doubt. But leaning on "experts" outside ebay to weed-out counterfeits is the only practical way to go. The number and kinds of counterfeit goods is staggering. Coins are a small part.
Lance. >>
Ebay just reported $3 billion dollars in revenues and $491 million dollars in profits this past quarter alone, maybe they could afford to hire and pay their own team of "experts"? >>
No. Consider the numbers. They'd need tens of thousands of "experts" working round the clock doing nothing but looking at new auction listings for many thousands of products across hundreds of product lines from handbags and shoes to designer perfume and gold clubs. If they could even find, hire, train and retain all those experts.
It's easy to take a narrow look at our one area of concern and ask why can't a team of experts be hired to check the hundreds of new listings that appear each minute.
Lance.
It's easy to take a narrow look at our one area of concern and ask why can't a team of experts be hired to check the hundreds of new listings that appear each minute. >>>
I don't really think tens of thousands of people would be necessary, but enough people to constantly scan the major areas of concern such as the items you mentioned. I used to report to Ebay a lot of counterfeit Rolex watches I'd see listed but I no longer even bother as it's time consuming, I get nothing for it, and Ebay is slow (if even at all) to address the issue). My new attitude now is it's Ebay's and the potential buyers problem, not mine.
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<< <i>It's technically no longer called Community Watch. It is "Enhanced Member Reporting".
Obviously some folks enjoy bashing ebay and there's plenty to complain about, no doubt. But leaning on "experts" outside ebay to weed-out counterfeits is the only practical way to go. The number and kinds of counterfeit goods is staggering. Coins are a small part.
Lance. >>
Ebay just reported $3 billion dollars in revenues and $491 million dollars in profits this past quarter alone, maybe they could afford to hire and pay their own team of "experts"? >>
No. Consider the numbers. They'd need tens of thousands of "experts" working round the clock doing nothing but looking at new auction listings for many thousands of products across hundreds of product lines from handbags and shoes to designer perfume and gold clubs. If they could even find, hire, train and retain all those experts.
It's easy to take a narrow look at our one area of concern and ask why can't a team of experts be hired to check the hundreds of new listings that appear each minute.
Lance. >>
wouldnt it be easy to flag every listing that states ( "estate sale" or "from an old collection" )
<< <i>It's the secret ebay Circle of Trust™ that nobody can join. >>
thats cause they dont trust no one
Exit bunker, enter Matrix. LOL
<< <i><<< I've forwarded this listing to the Coin Community Watch group. They agreed that the coin is a replica and I have removed it from the site. >>>
So Ebay charges obscene fees and then expects their "watch groups" to do their job? >>
Ebay sells twice as much dollar volume of coins as Heritage, yet has no numismatist on paid staff. Heritage has over 40.
You would think they would have a few paid consultants.
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Yes. In addition, when you consign a coin to Heritage and pay a commission they write the descriptions and take the photos, they do the advertising, they print and ship out the catalogs, they hold live floor sales, they collect the funds and ship the coin to the winning buyer, THEY pretty much do everything and you just wait for your check to arrive.
In contrast, what does Ebay do for their commission? They let you use their stinkin' website for several days while YOU do all the work.
<< <i><<< Ebay sells twice as much dollar volume of coins as Heritage, yet has no numismatist on paid staff. Heritage has over 40. >>>
Yes. In addition, when you consign a coin to Heritage and pay a commission they write the descriptions and take the photos, they do the advertising, they print and ship out the catalogs, they hold live floor sales, they collect the funds and ship the coin to the winning buyer, THEY pretty much do everything and you just wait for your check to arrive.
In contrast, what does Ebay do for their commission? They let you use their stinkin' website for several days while YOU do all the work. >>
Thanks. Sometimes Frank needs a reality check.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
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