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1871 Italy 5 lira questions(added photos)

jfoot13jfoot13 Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭
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I took this as part of a trade and have a couple questions as to grade and authenticity

In the Krause it says the weight of these was 25 grams this one is just a touch under 24 ( 23.87 ) was there variences or is this suspect? the other question is concerning the grade ,there is a substancial difference between unc and BU so I figure I'll defer to an expert for an opinion... thanks for any help

Ken

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  • coinpicturescoinpictures Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭
    More than a gram off on an UNC coin would set off red flags to me...
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,673 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks awfully shiny.

    And it's a type that almost certainly has been a target of Chinese counterfeiters before. They love crowns.

    That being said, I dunno, and if it turns out to be real, hey- nice coin.

    The 8 in the date looks funky to me. Lettering is often a cue to Chinese fakes- they don't always get it just-so. I can't really tell on the rest of the lettering with this one, from the pictures. And for all I know, there could have been a funky looking "8" punch used by the Italian mint.

    But it certainly bears further scrutiny.

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,615 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have a very bad feeling about this one

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  • mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭✭
    1. One gram light on a new coin is not promising.
    2. Looks polished (obverse in particular).
    3. Mushy "D'ITALIA" on reverse is not a confidence builder.

    Could be wrong, but based on what I can see here, I wouldn't risk my money on this one if it was offered to me.
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,673 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Mushy "D'ITALIA" on reverse is not a confidence builder. >>

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    I overlooked that in my initial look at the pictures.

    Are the A's in ITALIA really filled like that? Blobby looking? That's worrisome, if so.

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  • Nunfa0Nunfa0 Posts: 162
    It seems that you have a fake. It's under weight and the obverse and reverse lettering look wrong. Still at least it's only the Milan mint and not the Rome mint.
  • jfoot13jfoot13 Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭
    Thanks guys. It came from the scrap shop, when I scrap I try to save some stuff from the melt buckets looks like this one goes back image
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  • HyperionHyperion Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭
    it probably has more value being kept as a counterfeit example... send it in to the ANA .....
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  • jfoot13jfoot13 Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭
    I added some closeups of the areas questioned if this might help
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  • CIVITASCIVITAS Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭
    Definitely bogus.
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  • CIVITASCIVITAS Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭
    I should also add that it's almost certainly not silver.
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