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Would you make this Michael Jordan RC deal?--UPDATE: DEAL MADE

MBMiller25MBMiller25 Posts: 6,057 ✭✭
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I was offered an interesting trade last night.-----------DEAL has been made. He is shipping to me first, so there is no risk on my end. He needs the card for his registry which answers why he is willing to give up more on his end.

I give up: 1986 Fleer PSA 8.5

and I recieve: 1986 Fleer BGS 8.5 (subs: centering 8.5, corners 9, edges 9, surface 8.5) + 86 Fleer Jordan Sticker PSA 8 + $100 in cash.

Base your response off a pure net return, as I am trying to sell my Jordan PSA 8.5. Scans Below!



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Comments

  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭
    What kind of hit would you take if that BGS doesn't cross over to an 8.5? Looks like a great deal to me, but it could be too great. I might pull that trigger if it were me.
  • MBMiller25MBMiller25 Posts: 6,057 ✭✭


    << <i>What kind of hit would you take if that BGS doesn't cross over to an 8.5? >>



    I would probably just sell the Jordan card in the BGS 8.5 holder, versus trying to cross it over. I dont think it would bump to a 9.

  • BPorter26BPorter26 Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Knowing what you have in your Jordan and the BGS is just as nice as the PSA one. On top of that your getting a 8 Sticker and $100 in cash. Matt to me it's a no brainer I would do the deal. BTW I would keep it in the BGS holder.

    "EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY IT SAYS IT RIGHT THERE ON THE WALL" - JACKIE MOON
  • Sean1125Sean1125 Posts: 3,479
    I see ZERO downside to this for you at all.

    Best case (I think there is a decent shot at it):
    It crosses (maybe upgrade) - you win

    worst case
    it crosses as an 8- you about break even, I don't see any downside

    assuming my values are about correct on the Jordan grades, I don't see an INCREDIBLE premium of PSA versus BGS on this card...

    8= ~550-600
    8.5= ~750-800
    9= ~1200-1300
  • FrancartFrancart Posts: 335 ✭✭✭
    I would make that deal. The BGS Jordan looks Sharp.
  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>What kind of hit would you take if that BGS doesn't cross over to an 8.5? >>



    I would probably just sell the Jordan card in the BGS 8.5 holder, versus trying to cross it over. I dont think it would bump to a 9. >>



    I wouldn't try to cross it over either Matt.

    It would seem interesting that the other party wouldn't try to cross this card over first unless he already did that. It just seems odd to me unless there is a big price difference between the PSA and BGS graded cards which I have no clue about. Does VCP list the type of grading service for the cards sold? This is not my area so excuse my ignorance. image
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

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  • gameusedhoopgameusedhoop Posts: 3,594 ✭✭✭✭
    VCP is very similar, your psa won't bump to 9 imo because of top right. His won't bump because of t-b centering imo. Your getting the sticker and $$ for a +$175 +/- in your favor. I'd jump at the deal as long as the guy you're dealing with is trustworthy enough to send the same card as pictured etc...
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭
    That's why I would be so apprehensive. I mean why would the other person offer so much for the same card? Almost too good to be true...
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    Matt ... VCP on the regular card is almost the same in PSA and BGS (PSA is $10.00 higher). ASSUMING all three cards are in the holder they should be in, I think you would be CRAZY to pass on this deal. In addition, it looks like quite a few of the BGS cards have sold and the prices are very steady. IMO someone is handing you a $175.00 gift.
    STAY HEALTHY!

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    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
  • ShootyBabittShootyBabitt Posts: 970 ✭
    The VCP average on the two 8.5s is negligible, and you are getting +$200 between the sticker and the cash. Do it!
  • mrmint23mrmint23 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭
    To quote a famous poet...haha....Dont be stupid...DO IT!!!
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    It's a no-brainer. TRADE - before he changes his mind and reneges on you.
  • vladguerrerovladguerrero Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭
    do it
  • scmavlscmavl Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭
    If the guy is legit, I see no downside.
    2.5 is pretty much my speed.
  • YogiBerraFanYogiBerraFan Posts: 2,390 ✭✭
    Make the deal.
  • wallst32wallst32 Posts: 513 ✭✭


    << <i>That's why I would be so apprehensive. I mean why would the other person offer so much for the same card? Almost too good to be true... >>



    Agree with this. If a deal is too good to be true it usually is. What is the other party's incentivie or benefit from making this deal?
  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>That's why I would be so apprehensive. I mean why would the other person offer so much for the same card? Almost too good to be true... >>



    Agree with this. If a deal is too good to be true it usually is. What is the other party's incentivie or benefit from making this deal? >>



    The only thing I can think of is that the person really needs it for his registry set and the loss of value on the trade doesn't matter assuming that everything on his side is on the up and up.
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • hookemhookem Posts: 971 ✭✭
    Like I tell my rookie brokers...

    Shut the hell up.
    Hang up the phone.
    Put in the order.

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    Hook'em
  • scmavlscmavl Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭
    I'm making a similar deal on a musical instrument forum right now. I have a high end guitar that a guy in Norway wants. Most people are apprehensive about shipping international, but I'll do it. My guitar has a new value (in the US) of around $2800 but I have about $2000 in it. He's trading me a guitar that was $3000 new, now worth around $2000 as well as a rare discontinued effects pedal that currently fetches between $900-1100.

    Supply and demand. He can't get a guitar like I have in Norway so he's willing to make it worth my while. So, after shipping I should still come out around $700-800 up on the deal.
    2.5 is pretty much my speed.
  • mlbfan2mlbfan2 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭
    I'd easily take that deal, even without the $100.
  • MBMiller25MBMiller25 Posts: 6,057 ✭✭


    << <i>Agree with this. If a deal is too good to be true it usually is. What is the other party's incentivie or benefit from making this deal? >>





    << <i>The only thing I can think of is that the person really needs it for his registry set and the loss of value on the trade doesn't matter assuming that everything on his side is on the up and up. >>



    You nailed it. He wants the card for his registry, and is willing to give up more on his end to get the 8.5. He is sending everything first, so there is no risk to me. I should have in hand by Friday/Saturday of this week.

    Thanks for everyone's opinion.

  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    Congratulations on a GREAT deal my friend!!! image

    I guess you have a BGS 8.5 Jordan RC for sale now. image
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats on the trade...image

    Donato
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  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭
    Nice trade, and kudos to the other guy for going above and beyond to make this deal happen! Sounds like a decent dude.
  • TonyCTonyC Posts: 1,399 ✭✭✭
    Great trade; a Fleer Jordan RC is just new enough where the preference for PSA over BGS for "vintage" material starts to diminish, and most people who hardcore collect Jordan--think those who are stockpiling the 1990s inserts--prefer BGS anyway.
    Collecting Tony Conigliaro
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