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Question about PSA graded packs on BBCE website

FrozencaribouFrozencaribou Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I don't collect PSA graded packs, but I've wondered about one thing. If Steve Hart grades PSA's unopened pack submissions, and also sells PSA graded packs, isn't that a little strange? I know he's talked openly about grading for PSA, so there's nothing hidden, but let us take, for example, his 1979 OPC hockey packs for sale on his website. Raw= $275. PSA 8=$280. PSA 9= $300. PSA 10= $900.

Wouldn't it be like the current PSA head grader selling PSA graded cards on the side?

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  • bumpskierbumpskier Posts: 65 ✭✭
    I don't think Steve grades the packs, he just authenticates that they are real and unopened. I think PSA still assigns the grade to the pack if Steve says they are authentic.
  • FrozencaribouFrozencaribou Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting. I am just interested in the process, and PSA seems to try to avoid conflict of interest with their graders.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,753 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Steve does not assign a grade to any pack. His part is to authenticate the pack and determine if it is legit or not. Who better to determine that than the most reputable unopened dealer in the hobby? If Steve were to deliberately start authenticating bad packs, it would ruin both his reputation and PSA's, so I really don't think you have anything to worry about.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • FrozencaribouFrozencaribou Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the information. As I previously stated, I know nothing about this area of PSA's operations and wanted to know what he meant by saying he was grading for PSA. I agree that he would be the perfect person to authenticate packs.
  • cincyredlegscincyredlegs Posts: 2,032 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Steve does not assign a grade to any pack. His part is to authenticate the pack and determine if it is legit or not. Who better to determine that than the most reputable unopened dealer in the hobby? If Steve were to deliberately start authenticating bad packs, it would ruin both his reputation and PSA's, so I really don't think you have anything to worry about. >>




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  • miconelegacymiconelegacy Posts: 3,052 ✭


    << <i>Steve does not assign a grade to any pack. His part is to authenticate the pack and determine if it is legit or not. Who better to determine that than the most reputable unopened dealer in the hobby? If Steve were to deliberately start authenticating bad packs, it would ruin both his reputation and PSA's, so I really don't think you have anything to worry about. >>



    Ditto!
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  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭


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    << <i>Steve does not assign a grade to any pack. His part is to authenticate the pack and determine if it is legit or not. Who better to determine that than the most reputable unopened dealer in the hobby? If Steve were to deliberately start authenticating bad packs, it would ruin both his reputation and PSA's, so I really don't think you have anything to worry about. >>


    Ditto! >>


    THRitto ...I know it's not a word ... but you get my point! LOL
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  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

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    << <i>Steve does not assign a grade to any pack. His part is to authenticate the pack and determine if it is legit or not. Who better to determine that than the most reputable unopened dealer in the hobby? If Steve were to deliberately start authenticating bad packs, it would ruin both his reputation and PSA's, so I really don't think you have anything to worry about. >>


    Ditto! >>


    THRitto ...I know it's not a word ... but you get my point! LOL >>



    To the power of four.

    Just to add to the discussion. If you notice, Steve also sells some GAI graded packs as well. Remember, he buys entire collections and those collectors have graded packs which he turns around to sell. That is why you see all three on his website, PSA, GAI, and raw.
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    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

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    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • dmurphy3mvpdmurphy3mvp Posts: 264 ✭✭✭
    Here's a list of the other experts PSA employs, most on a consultant basis:

    PSA Experts

    Notice there are several dealers here, mostly in the autograph field. I'm sure it works the same way for these consultants; they authenticate the autographs, then a PSA employee assigns a grade, if necessary.

    I'm sure in a perfect world, they would like to have all their graders and authenticators to not have any involvement in their own business, but unfortunately it's usually more lucrative to be a dealer than a grader.

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  • FrozencaribouFrozencaribou Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks everyone for the clarification. It's nice to see there can be conversations without threads blowing up, and it is also nice to see BBCE participating in our forum.

    Cheers,

    Nathanael
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