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Re-selling a coin purchased at Heritage Auctions

BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭
Say just as an example, you purchased a coin 10 years ago from Heritage Auctions, its a beautiful early commem with no problems at all and booming luster, a coin that would appeal to anyone and around 500.00 in price, we'll say just for fun. Would there be any more beneficial avenue to sell it thru, out of the many available, other than to have Heritage re-sell it for you due to no sellers fee since you purchased it from them? The buyer still pays 15% fees which in actuality comes out of your profit. On the other hand, Heritage does an excellent job.

I am thinking that going back thru Heritage cant be beat because of their no-fee policy on coins purchased thru them. Agree or disagree, thanks-----------BigE

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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,423 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    Yes!
    No?

    Umm....ok...

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭
    Sorry Bochi, posted too early and rushed back to finish lol-----------------BigE
    I'm glad I am a Tree
  • Hi BigE,
    The problem with your question is that some coins fetch more money on Heritage, while others fetch more on ebay and others fetch more at teletrade etc. For example:
    An 1889-cc Morgan ANACS MS60 just sold for $8,951.00 on ebay while another ANACS MS60 just sold for $8,337.50 on Heritage BUT
    An 1889-cc Morgan PCGS AU58 just sold for $8,000.01 on ebay while another PCGS AU58 just sold for $14,950.00 on Heritage.

    If you're not totaly confused by that, than you're not trying hard enough. LOL
  • jhdflajhdfla Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭
    Try the BST first.
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Try the BST first. >>



    image The price is right there.....
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,423 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Sorry Bochi, posted too early and rushed back to finish lol-----------------BigE >>



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    I think I would look and see how similar items have sold recently. Heritage will have, imho, more of a specific set of eyes looking at things, particularly if in an auction around that type of material being promoted.
    Ebay has a ton more eyes, but are they looking for your specific item?

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,445 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think a key to Heritage is what they list it with. If they list it along with a bunch of cr*p, you lose. If they list it with a similar bunch of cool stuff, you'll likely do well. MFH recently sold his Barber sets through HA and some they listed with cool stuff and some with cr*p, so he had mixed results. IMHO.
    ANA-LM, NBS, EAC
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One could probably do better than giving up 15% on a fairly generic coin, even a gem commem. There are a ton of commems in every auction, gems too. If yours sets itself
    apart from the others in the same grade (ie higher end and stickered) then maybe take a chance. But as a rule I wouldn't do it. Note too that most auction houses will give
    a deal of at least a 0% sellers fee on a smaller consignment. Obviously not for a single $500 coin. Just saying that 0% is nothing special. For generic coins like choice gem
    commems, common gold, Morgans, etc. one can probably get the same amount or more via private sale or directly from a dealer.

    The reason an Au58 89-cc Morgan fetches $15K at Heritage is either because it's an easy upgrade to MS61, the most pq 58 imagineable, stickered to boot, etc. It doesn't bring
    nearly 2X more than those AU58's solely because of the venue. I don't buy that. If I had a "speical" AU58 89-cc I too would put it in a special venue. If it were no different than
    the majority of other 58's it probably wouldn't matter where it was sold, it would still bring about $8K.

    roadrunner
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,060 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maximize profit (or reduce loss) by going with the venue that offers the greatest profit/least loss.

    Exit bunker, enter Matrix. LOL

  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,402 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The "No Sellers Fee" is bogus. There is no sellers fee other than the 15% they keep.

    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • chumleychumley Posts: 2,305 ✭✭✭✭
    I would send a PM to Chumley...if that didnt pan out then BST
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The "No Sellers Fee" is bogus. There is no sellers fee other than the 15% they keep. >>



    You'd be surprised at how many other people think otherwise. I participated in a knock-out drag-down thread on a collector car blog where the majority of people
    felt that buyer's pay the buyer's fee...I mean literally that it's paid by the buyer. They ran me off the thread as if I were telling them that Robert E. Lee was buried in
    Grant's tomb....lol. I couldn't convince them that the moon wasn't made of green cheese. I even had a car dealer post his auction receipt where he paid a 3% fee
    on top of his bid (ie called a buyer's fee) and swore up and down it came out of the seller's pocket, not his. And this after acknowledging that he never adjusts his bids for
    any fees. He just keeps his hand in the air until he wins the car he's after...lol. So my 2 cents is that in the collector car field, 65-95% of participants believe the buyer's
    pay the buyer's fee. If you go on line and check the terms and conditions of any auction house in any field, they are very careful in their wording of the buyer's fee.
    They will never state anything but the "fact" that it comes out of the buyer's side of the equation. We in the coin field somehow have figured this all light years before
    other collectible fields. I went so far as to google "who pays buyers fees" and out of about 50 links, only 2 of them supported the idea that seller's pay all the fees. Most odd.
    To the world at large....buyer's do pay the buyer's fee. And they really do if you don't back off your bids....lol.

    In the end the auction cares not who pays the buyer's and sellers's fees....as long as they get them both.

    roadrunner
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,402 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You mean, I've been keeping the "No seller fee" certificates from Heritage for nothing?? image
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • pretty sure you still need to meet a minimum consignment level and I think it is $5K. You would need a lot on Comm to hit that.
  • bestclser1bestclser1 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    What kind of coin?
    Great coins are not cheap,and cheap coins are not great!
  • BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭
    Lakesammman, I believe Heritage keeps a record of coins you can re auction, I think they also shoot to get 15% from both the buyer and seller each,

    Chumley, will pm you soon

    Roadrunner, great info, as usual

    Crypto, ""pretty sure you still need to meet a minimum consignment level and I think it is $5K. You would need a lot on Comm to hit that. "" Early commems., not George Washington commemsimage

    Bestclsr, ""what kind of coins"", its in the OP!
    I'm glad I am a Tree
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,519 ✭✭✭✭✭
    BST first, other routes second...especially for an item in that dollar range.
    "If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
    Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners. :smile:
  • halfcentmanhalfcentman Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Say just as an example, you purchased a coin 10 years ago from Heritage Auctions, its a beautiful early commem with no problems at all and booming luster, a coin that would appeal to anyone and around 500.00 in price, we'll say just for fun. Would there be any more beneficial avenue to sell it thru, out of the many available, other than to have Heritage re-sell it for you due to no sellers fee since you purchased it from them? The buyer still pays 15% fees which in actuality comes out of your profit. On the other hand, Heritage does an excellent job.

    I am thinking that going back thru Heritage cant be beat because of their no-fee policy on coins purchased thru them. Agree or disagree, thanks-----------BigE >>



    In 2008, I bid on a Half Cent and like a schmuck I thought I could return it because I was bidding on the Internet (it was a Signature Auction). Lesson: READ EVERYTHING BEFORE DOING ANYTHING!

    When I got the coin, it was not as nice as the one I had, so I gave it back to them at the ANA, they put it in the auction, and I ended up making $200.00.

    Hence, it worked for me.

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