Multiple shill bidding accounts?

derryb

Looking at ebays "bid activity with this seller" one sees the top four bidders have activity of 87%, 75%, 50% and 50%. Is this indicative the seller is using multiple accounts to bump bidding on his items?

Bid History

TheCoinGeezer

I don't see anything out of place in the auction cited. Do you have any other "evidence"?

dollarsandcents

<< <i>Looking at ebays "bid activity with this seller" one sees the top four bidders have activity of 87%, 75%, 50% and 50%. Is this indicative the seller is using multiple accounts to bump bidding on his items?

Bid History >>



huh? I guess I'm confused by your efforts at deductive reasoning with this inquiry.

okracer

Well, since the top 4 bidders were over 50%, if they were shills, then they were bidding against themselves. And one of them won.

Greeniejr

I can think of two scenarios. One is quite legitimate which is there are a few bottom feeders that bid on all of their auctions trying to win a mistake. We have some people who bid on many of our auctions when they are at a few bucks especially when they are widgets that wholesale for $50 or more. They never win anything but they place a lot of real bids with us. The second is that there is a shill but it can't be because they are a preferred bullion seller.

oldsubguru

I believe that E-bay has solved that problem to a certain extent. What they are looking at now is the IP address and if it is in the same location, E-bay is questioning the bid. Why this was not thought of long ago is beyond me for each on line computer can be traced to a specific location. If two computers in the same location are bidding on the same object, then you have shill bidding.

BJ Neff

TwoSides2aCoin

Shill bidding bullion on eBay ....
It doesn't seem logical but anything's possible.

Frankcoins

<< <i>I believe that E-bay has solved that problem to a certain extent. What they are looking at now is the IP address and if it is in the same location, E-bay is questioning the bid. Why this was not thought of long ago is beyond me for each on line computer can be traced to a specific location. If two computers in the same location are bidding on the same object, then you have shill bidding.

BJ Neff >>



Ebay was doing the IP crap ten years ago...and suspended a lot of innocent people who used a venue's wireless
network at a hotel or convention center...as to ebay these all had the same IP address. They now use hidden
flash cookies. These should be cleared with CCleaner or a similar program if you have ever let a friend
login to Ebay using your computer. Unless you do so before you log in, You risk having your account "associated"
with another person's account, and if THEIR account is ever suspended, you risk having YOURS suspended as
well.

jeremym

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<< <i>I believe that E-bay has solved that problem to a certain extent. What they are looking at now is the IP address and if it is in the same location, E-bay is questioning the bid. Why this was not thought of long ago is beyond me for each on line computer can be traced to a specific location. If two computers in the same location are bidding on the same object, then you have shill bidding.

BJ Neff >>



Ebay was doing the IP crap ten years ago...and suspended a lot of innocent people who used a venue's wireless
network at a hotel or convention center...as to ebay these all had the same IP address. They now use hidden
flash cookies. These should be cleared with CCleaner or a similar program if you have ever let a friend
login to Ebay using your computer. Unless you do so before you log in, You risk having your account "associated"
with another person's account, and if THEIR account is ever suspended, you risk having YOURS suspended as
well. >>



Quoted for truth. Happened to me before.

Friend had an eBay account and didn't pay for multiple items. He then used that eBay account's associated PayPal account to send money to another friend. Then, the other friend sent me some money from that paypal account. So now I'm associated with the first ebay account through the following chain>

Friend A's non-paying ebay account>Friend A's paypal account>Friend B's paypal account>my paypal account>my ebay account>associated with Friend A's non-paying bidder ebay account.

All of this was at different times and the above does not imply a chronological order of events.