Major die cracks or retained cuds. Which are these?

OnWithTheHunt

Reverses of both coins are normal, if that makes a difference.

stealer

I think they are both retained cuds because the ends touch the rim of the coin.

Of course, I could be wrong

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errormaven

The crack appears to show slight vertical displacement. That is one of the diagnostic criteria for a retained cud.

goodmoney4badmoney

A purist could say these are not retained cuds, however, they have 100%+ potential to be one.. so basically they are. It's interesting how the the dies failed in almost the exact same way so many years apart. Cool pieces!

JRocco

I would call these both examples of retained cuds.