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What should be the ANA's highest priorities?

MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,286 ✭✭✭✭✭
Keep in mind that they have finite resources, and that some of the numismatic community's needs are already well served by others.
Andy Lustig

Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

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  • Educating the public should be their highest priority. Offering information to collectors.

    Edit: Beats me, I have never joined that club. Thought about it once or twice however for CAC purposes, but I hear that opportunity is long gone.
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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,823 ✭✭✭✭✭
    to think internet
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    and develop an amazing web resource.
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,286 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Education" is the easy answer, but it may be wrong. Think about how easy it is to get most info online and you may come to believe that the ANA's role in education should continue to diminish.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • NysotoNysoto Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Education - continue seminars, library, etc

    Transparency - paying members have a need to know of the reasons decisions are made, and the details behind them. The younger generation will not tolerate sweeping issues under the rug.

    Numismatist - include at least one original research article per issue.

    Efficiency and accountibility - reduce expenses and staff. Dues need to be kept in line with what the average collector will pay. The ANA's membership has been declining, in part because of dues increases.

    Ethics - stronger ethics rules for members, and ousting of those who violate rules, including coin doctoring.

    Young Numismatists - promote collecting to YN's, they are the future.
    Robert Scot: Engraving Liberty - biography of US Mint's first chief engraver
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Education - continue seminars, library, etc

    Transparency - paying members have a need to know of the reasons decisions are made, and the details behind them. The younger generation will not tolerate sweeping issues under the rug.

    Numismatist - include at least one original research article per issue.

    Efficiency and accountibility - reduce expenses and staff. Dues need to be kept in line with what the average collector will pay. The ANA's membership has been declining, in part because of dues increases.

    Ethics - stronger ethics rules for members, and ousting of those who violate rules, including coin doctoring.

    Young Numismatists - promote collecting to YN's, they are the future. >>


    I think I will be voting for you for governor!
  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This would be low on the list but I wish they would allow earlybird passes to collectors at all the ANA shows. Larry should have never taken that privledge away from the collectors.


  • << <i>Education - continue seminars, library, etc

    Transparency - paying members have a need to know of the reasons decisions are made, and the details behind them. The younger generation will not tolerate sweeping issues under the rug.

    Numismatist - include at least one original research article per issue.

    Efficiency and accountibility - reduce expenses and staff. Dues need to be kept in line with what the average collector will pay. The ANA's membership has been declining, in part because of dues increases.

    Ethics - stronger ethics rules for members, and ousting of those who violate rules, including coin doctoring.

    Young Numismatists - promote collecting to YN's, they are the future. >>



    +1--especially the transparency issue!!
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  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They should be the premiere coin club and by extension promote the local and regional coin clubs. Make them stronger, better and more accessible (on the internet). The local and regional coin clubs should return the favor and promote the ANA to their membership.

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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Figure out why their membership is only about 33,000?
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  • GregLGregL Posts: 470


    << <i>This would be low on the list but I wish they would allow earlybird passes to collectors at all the ANA shows. Larry should have never taken that privledge away from the collectors. >>



    This topic is on the Board agenda in Pittsburgh.

    Greg
    Greg Lyon, ANA Board of Governors 2011-2017 -- The views represented here are my own personal opinions and do not represent those of the American Numismatic Association.
  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,467 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Figure out why their membership is only about 33,000?
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    Calling AU coins mint state wouldn't have anything to do with that, would it?

    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

    My Jefferson Nickel Collection

  • ebaytraderebaytrader Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭
    In order of importance:

    1. Hobby promotion / publicity
    2. Hobby promotion / publicity
    3. Hobby promotion / publicity
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,298 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Figure out why their membership is only about 33,000?
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    Calling AU coins mint state wouldn't have anything to do with that, would it? >>



    No, it wouldn't since the ANA doesn't grade coins.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • Collector education
    Hobby promotion
    Foster research
    Increase membership
    and last but not least - greater transparency to the members
  • tcmitssrtcmitssr Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Keep in mind that they have finite resources, and that some of the numismatic community's needs are already well served by others. >>



    The first priority, seriously, should be for the current Board of Directors to amend the bylaws, resign en masse and see if their continue to hold the member's confidence by running for re-election.

    We know they won't because that would require bravery in leadership that, just IMHO, does not exist in their collective group.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Keep in mind that they have finite resources, and that some of the numismatic community's needs are already well served by others. >>



    The first priority, seriously, should be for the current Board of Directors to amend the bylaws, resign en masse and see if their continue to hold the member's confidence by running for re-election.

    We know they won't because that would require bravery in leadership that, just IMHO, does not exist in their collective group. >>


    That's not bravery--that's absurdity!
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,298 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Their first priority is to come clean and tell their dues paying members why they saw fit to fire The Executive Director.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Their first priority is to come clean and tell their dues paying members why they saw fit to fire The Executive Director. >>


    They are likely bound by a confidentiality agreement. It's not going to happen.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,298 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Their first priority is to come clean and tell their dues paying members why they saw fit to fire The Executive Director. >>


    They are likely bound by a confidentiality agreement. It's not going to happen. >>



    If that's true, what's the point of the ANA's and LS's cryptic press releases and LS retaining the services of a lawyer?

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 13,995 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I started doing a Top 10 list, but after I finished the first three I decided the other 7 didn't matter too much:

    1. Honesty
    2. Candor
    3. Integrity
    4.
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    10.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,409 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Silence should be the highest priority. There's too much chatter and it reads like a stupid soap opera.


  • << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Their first priority is to come clean and tell their dues paying members why they saw fit to fire The Executive Director. >>


    They are likely bound by a confidentiality agreement. It's not going to happen. >>



    If that's true, what's the point of the ANA's and LS's cryptic press releases and LS retaining the services of a lawyer? >>


    LS has probably hired a lawyer to make the ANA pay him the balance of his contract.
    ANA will refuse.
    There will be yet another lawsuit, which will disgust most ANA members (like me!)
    If LS was playing hide the salami with another ANA employee, it simply doesn't matter to me unless it was a case of coercion.
  • WindycityWindycity Posts: 3,524 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hire a professional Executive Director from outside of numismatics. Someone with intelligence, integrity, and professional management experience of a large company or organization. Then survey and listen to the membership.
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  • ianrussellianrussell Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Hire a professional Executive Director from outside of numismatics. Someone with intelligence, integrity, and professional management experience of a large company or organization. Then survey and listen to the membership. >>



    Personally, I don't think this will work. Someone with a lot of knowledge of coins needs to be in charge... they need to understand the coin industry and collectors.

    Out of the last 10-15 Executive Directors, who has been the best and worst?

    - Ian
    Ian Russell
    Owner/Founder GreatCollections
    GreatCollections Coin Auctions - Certified Coin Auctions Every Week - Rare Coins & Coin Values
  • tcmitssrtcmitssr Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Keep in mind that they have finite resources, and that some of the numismatic community's needs are already well served by others. >>



    The first priority, seriously, should be for the current Board of Directors to amend the bylaws, resign en masse and see if their continue to hold the member's confidence by running for re-election.

    We know they won't because that would require bravery in leadership that, just IMHO, does not exist in their collective group. >>


    That's not bravery--that's absurdity! >>



    No, it's leadership......real, honest and candid leadership. Something I think the current Board of Directors lacks. If they are have confidence in their actions, change the bylaws to allow for recall from office, allowing former employees to run if they've been separated for over a year, let anyone run for VP or President, not just someone who has already been on the Board.

    It's somewhat easier, in many ways (apart from the 35 years of age requirement and being born a U.S. citizen) to be elected President, and V.P., of the U.S. than it is to qualify for the ballot of ANA President or VP.
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    TRANSPARENCY!


    Did anyone ever find out or state with absolute certainty what happened to all of the money that they had for the people that were being sued by ACG?

    Seem to recall more than 1 person that did not receive one bit of assistance....


    I emailed a few times to someone there (Susan I'm thinking but don't feel like checking right now) trying to get a straight answer.

    Yeah right.
  • IrishMikeyIrishMikey Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Keep in mind that they have finite resources, and that some of the numismatic community's needs are already well served by others. >>



    The first priority, seriously, should be for the current Board of Directors to amend the bylaws, resign en masse and see if their continue to hold the member's confidence by running for re-election.

    We know they won't because that would require bravery in leadership that, just IMHO, does not exist in their collective group. >>


    That's not bravery--that's absurdity! >>



    No, it's leadership......real, honest and candid leadership. Something I think the current Board of Directors lacks. If they are have confidence in their actions, change the bylaws to allow for recall from office, allowing former employees to run if they've been separated for over a year, let anyone run for VP or President, not just someone who has already been on the Board.

    It's somewhat easier, in many ways (apart from the 35 years of age requirement and being born a U.S. citizen) to be elected President, and V.P., of the U.S. than it is to qualify for the ballot of ANA President or VP. >>


    If you can stop grinding that axe for just a minute, you might consider a few simple facts. First of all, you
    DO NOT KNOW what happened, and the board does. Second, the cost of running an ANA election, if memory
    serves, is about $35,000, when you take into account mailing and printing costs, tabulation, etc. Are you
    going to pony up $35,000 for a new election?

    I know several members of the current board, and while I do not know you personally, from the way you have
    been ranting on the message boards, I know who I would rather spend time with. Give it a rest, will you?
  • tcmitssrtcmitssr Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Keep in mind that they have finite resources, and that some of the numismatic community's needs are already well served by others. >>



    The first priority, seriously, should be for the current Board of Directors to amend the bylaws, resign en masse and see if their continue to hold the member's confidence by running for re-election.

    We know they won't because that would require bravery in leadership that, just IMHO, does not exist in their collective group. >>


    That's not bravery--that's absurdity! >>



    No, it's leadership......real, honest and candid leadership. Something I think the current Board of Directors lacks. If they are have confidence in their actions, change the bylaws to allow for recall from office, allowing former employees to run if they've been separated for over a year, let anyone run for VP or President, not just someone who has already been on the Board.

    It's somewhat easier, in many ways (apart from the 35 years of age requirement and being born a U.S. citizen) to be elected President, and V.P., of the U.S. than it is to qualify for the ballot of ANA President or VP. >>


    If you can stop grinding that axe for just a minute, you might consider a few simple facts. First of all, you
    DO NOT KNOW what happened, and the board does. Second, the cost of running an ANA election, if memory
    serves, is about $35,000, when you take into account mailing and printing costs, tabulation, etc. Are you
    going to pony up $35,000 for a new election?

    I know several members of the current board, and while I do not know you personally, from the way you have
    been ranting on the message boards, I know who I would rather spend time with. Give it a rest, will you? >>



    No. I choose to exercise my right of free speech as I wish, unless and until Don asks me otherwise as a guest on his corporation's board.

    Perhaps there is a guest editorial within me for Coin World in the next future. I'll have to give that some thought.
  • BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭
    Yes, education is too simplistic. They should.........

    ....never stand in the way of the evolution of numismatics and free it like a mighty river flowing from the heights of Olympus with perpetual curves and bends filling the Ocean Of Time with joy and peace for all participants.




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