<< <i>You Sanders nuts crack me up. He doesn't make the top ten list for me. I wouldn't have him on my team. >>
I think I can squeeze him into my top ten.
Problem Barry had was a huge standard deviation from his career average five yards per carry. His numbers more resembled a receiver than an RB. A good back hammers out 3 or 4 yards for a first down. That was not Sanders forte.
He could bust a hole and scamper for 50 and then lose 10 yards on each of the next two carries.
Having said all that, never, ever has the NFL witness such an athletic or exciting player.
Anyone who understand football has Barry at top 2 all time. Him or Jim Brown, take your pick.
Do you know why Barry had all those rushes for negative yards? Because he had no one to block for him up front!!
And here's a stat for you~even with all the plays where 3 defenders would be in the backfield before he took a first step resulting in a 2-yard loss, he still AVERAGED 5.0 YARDS PER CARRY FOR HIS ENTIRE CAREER! You want RBs who score TDs?? He scored 109 in just 10 seasons! What are you talking about?>? LOL!
He had two Pro Bowl OL during his tenure at Detroit. By comparison, E. Smith had six OL Pro Bowlers and a HALL OF FAME OL up front (not to mention Moose Johnston blocking for him and Troy Aikman and Michael Irvin on offense, too).
Put Sanders on the Cowboys during the 90s and he rushes for 20K yards! And Tony D? Better than Barry? LMAO!! Well, ok, he was lucky enough to once get the ball and run for 99 yds on one play, so that must make him the better all time RB. Surely, you can't be that simplistic when evaluating a player? Can you??
Dimeman, your failure to grasp anything but the most obvious stats in football without understanding the meaning or significance behind them, is really misguided, but not surprising.
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<< <i>Grote you and all the other Sanders fans can bring up the stats and nonsense you want about who played with who and who this and who that.
There are at least 20 runners better than sanders......at least! >>
There are also at least 20 posters on this board who understand the game of football better than you ever will. At least! LOL!
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<< <i>Grote you and all the other Sanders fans can bring up the stats and nonsense you want about who played with who and who this and who that.
There are at least 20 runners better than sanders......at least! >>
Never has a poster been more wrong more often. You are number 1 all time. This is hardly debatable. Seriously John you are priceless
MJ
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Nice bring up on Touchdown Tony......yet another RB better than sanders.
I think we can all agree that the Cowboys during Dorsett's era were a much better team that the Lions during Sanders' era, correct?
Yet "Touchdown Tony" scored only 90 total touchdowns in 173 games over 12 seasons (4.3 YPG), while Barry Sanders scored 109 total touchdowns in 153 games over 10 seasons (5.0 YPG). All while playing for an inferior team that would literally stack the box on almost every play knowing Sanders would get the rock. Perhaps "Touchdown Tony" is a misnomer, at least when used in this partcular comparison.
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<< <i>All I can say about Rafael Septien is that it was an automatic 3 points.......45 yds and in. >>
Automatic?? He was 38 for EIGHTY THREE lifetime from 40-49 yards. Unless by "automatic" you mean successful less than half the time, LOL!!
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>>>Automatic?? He was 38 for EIGHTY THREE lifetime from 40-49 yards. Unless by "automatic" you mean successful less than half the time, LOL!! <<<
I said 45 and in.....and you bring in stats for 40-49. Not wanting to get into a "kicker" arguement. I just remember him being a good steady kicker from medium range, but not long.
And no, I am not basing my assessment of TD on the 99 yard run.......just brought it up. Although I would take Tony over Barry any day. I guess different people like different running styles. I don't care for the circus style running of Sanders. I'm sure defensive cooridnators have to love it when the opposing team RB keeps running around loosing yards instead of plowing ahead for what ever plus yardage he can get.
You can diss me all you want, but I will take runners like Smith, Brown, Riggins, Dickerson, Tony D., Cambell and many many more over Barry Sanders.
And you can still have Romo! Can't wait to see how he does this year. He is pathetic when healthy.....with a bad back.....good grief!
I really don't know how bad things have to get before Jerry starts looking for a new QB. But then he has made some real dumb moves over the years. I will give him credit for the good things and good results when he first got the team, but it's been pretty much downhill since 1996!
<< <i>You can diss me all you want, but I will take runners like Smith, Brown, Riggins, Dickerson, Tony D., Cambell and many many more over Barry Sanders. >>
Chuck Muncie. Not many better at pounding one up the middle.
<< <i>There are at least 20 runners better than sanders......at least! >>
There have been some breathtakingly dumb things said around these parts, but I honestly think it's time for someone to locate the blue ribbon and start dusting it off.
DIMEMAN, I like you and the extra spice (for lack of a better word) you bring come football season, but even in your most inebriated state you can't possibly believe this. If Barry hadn't cut short his career and had been afforded similar road-graders, he would most likely be the only player in NFL history to rush for 20k+. In the same breath, had Emmitt run behind a clearly inferior offensive line for 15 seasons, his stats wouldn't come close to mirroring what they are today.
The reason Barry had so many rushes for next to nothing is because his patchwork o-line was besieged on a regular basis. I'm not sure Houdini could have turned chicken sh!t into chicken salad as often as Barry was asked to. Yes, he was often molested in the backfield which made for some hideous rushes, but, on average, every time he went for one yard on first down and neg one on second, he busted off 15 the next time he was handed the ball. End of day, he averaged an extremely robust 5.0 for his entire career, almost a full yard more than Emmitt behind those (at the time) behemoths.
Digging a little deeper, I recently read an article that touched on this very topic (Emmitt v Barry), and I was confronted with some statistics that fueled what I already believed before: Barry was clearly the better back. It's not a foolproof methodology, but I find it to be a more compelling measure of performance than inferring a complete reversal of roles, as I did above.
Here goes.
During Barry's tenure with the Lions, his YPC was 4.99. For all others who happened to be running backs for Detroit during the exact same time period, the cumulative YPC was 3.97. The difference of 1.02 is the largest margin in NFL history when it comes to star RBs. Wider than that of Jim Brown (.89), Walter Payton (.43) and, yes, "Touchdown" Tony Dorsett (.45). Comparatively speaking, the difference between Emmitt's YPC and that of running back teammates from both DAL & ARI was .24, or 4.24-4.00.
Interpret that as you may, but one could make the strong argument that Emmitt was a product of his surrounding HoF teammates (QB, WR, OL). He was a great back, don't get me wrong, but Barry Sanders he absolutely was not. And if you'll quit sipping the kool-aid for a moment and expand your mind, DIMEMAN, I think you'll come to this realization. Or, at the very least, you'll stick him back in your top-20. LOL
Btw, lots of familiar mugs were tangling in this thread three years ago? lol
<< <i>Grote you and all the other Sanders fans can bring up the stats and nonsense you want about who played with who and who this and who that.
There are at least 20 runners better than sanders......at least! >>
Dimeman. I'm the biggest Emmitt fan on the planet but come on with this stuff. Barry Sanders was a highlight reel waiting to happen. Yeah he lost yards but look how many he gained. He also didn't have the luxury of playing for a motivational coach who was a draft and trade mastermind. Which leads me to my next point. The supporting cast Johnson put together, allowed Emmitt and the whole team to function as a dominant, well oiled machine. Barry had Lomas Brown and who else? I can't remember and neither can anyone else lol.
There is no way there are 20 rb's better than Sanders. This thought boggles my mind
<<During Barry's tenure with the Lions, his YPC was 4.99. For all others who happened to be running backs for Detroit during the exact same time period, the cumulative YPC was 3.97. The difference of 1.02 is the largest margin in NFL history when it comes to star RBs. Wider than that of Jim Brown (.89), Walter Payton (.43) and, yes, "Touchdown" Tony Dorsett (.45). Comparatively speaking, the difference between Emmitt's YPC and that of running back teammates from both DAL & ARI was .24, or 4.24-4.00.
Interpret that as you may, but one could make the strong argument that Emmitt was a product of his surrounding HoF teammates (QB, WR, OL). He was a great back, don't get me wrong, but Barry Sanders he absolutely was not. And if you'll quit sipping the kool-aid for a moment and expand your mind, DIMEMAN, I think you'll come to this realization. Or, at the very least, you'll stick him back in your top-20. LOL>>
< Dimeman....here are some highlights of the 21st best running back in the game of football.
Sanders>
I was just watching those highlights. It's incredible that on a lot of these runs there were 8 or 9 guys in the box. Emmit would have never seen the ball with 8 guys in the box.
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<< <i>>>>Chuck Muncie. Not many better at pounding one up the middle. <<<
Ding Ding Ding!!!! Yet another RB better than Barry Sanders! >>
Now I know you're just playing, Dimeman. Even you could not be that clueless! LOL!
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<< <i>>>>Chuck Muncie. Not many better at pounding one up the middle. <<<
Ding Ding Ding!!!! Yet another RB better than Barry Sanders! >>
Even you could not be that clueless! LOL! >>
I beg to differ.
MJ
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<< <i>>>>Chuck Muncie. Not many better at pounding one up the middle. <<<
Ding Ding Ding!!!! Yet another RB better than Barry Sanders! >>
Even you could not be that clueless! LOL! >>
I beg to differ.
MJ >>
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Duh. Obviously he could run better then Sanders and throw further then Romo. But could he kick as accurately as Septien from 37 yards?
MJ
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Lawnmowerman - I just went out and looked at your Cowboy backfield set.
And guess what.......yet another RB better than Sanders....... Herschel Walker.
I don't care what the stats are on the 2, but I would take Walker any day over Sanders.
Walker was a beast and a very good receiver to boot! He was very good in Dallas.....then they traded him to Minn. for the FARM where he was not that great and we went on to have the BEST football team ever and won 3 SB's in the span of 4 years!
<< <i>Lawnmowerman - I just went out and looked at your Cowboy backfield set.
And guess what.......yet another RB better than Sanders....... Herschel Walker.
I don't care what the stats are on the 2, but I would take Walker any day over Sanders.
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Were you cleared from your obvious concussion like symptoms by SM1 before reentering the Sports Forum? Rules are rules.
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Wow I didnt realize how out of control this thread has gotten, also didnt realize how far Dimeman has escalated the nonsense either.
I know Im late to the fray but the fact that anyone would say that there were 20+ better running backs than Barry Sanders then that guy deserves to be called out yet again, its pure twilight zone material if you try to make sense of it.
<< <i> I know Im late to the fray but the fact that anyone would say that there were 20+ better running backs than Barry Sanders then that guy deserves to be called out yet again, its pure twilight zone material if you try to make sense of it. >>
^This!
I have the misfortune of living in Michigan so I have seen most every Lions game of the past 20 years.. and watching Barry make defenders look foolish almost every single week.
<< <i>Terrell Davis- yet another better runner than Sanders!
The list goes on and on. >>
I'm pretty sure you're just joking now but just in case, TD only had four good years. Maybe he would have had more if not for injury but the fact remains, he didn't. One can even argue that he was a product of Mike Shanahan's zone blocking scheme that made players like Reuben Droughns look like an all pro.
<< <i>Terrell Davis- yet another better runner than Sanders!
The list goes on and on. >>
I'm pretty sure you're just joking now but just in case, TD only had four good years. Maybe he would have had more if not for injury but the fact remains, he didn't. One can even argue that he was a product of Mike Shanahan's zone blocking scheme that made players like Reuben Droughns look like an all pro. >>
<< <i>Terrell Davis- yet another better runner than Sanders!
The list goes on and on. >>
I'm pretty sure you're just joking now but just in case, TD only had four good years. Maybe he would have had more if not for injury but the fact remains, he didn't. One can even argue that he was a product of Mike Shanahan's zone blocking scheme that made players like Reuben Droughns look like an all pro. >>
<< <i>Terrell Davis- yet another better runner than Sanders!
The list goes on and on. >>
I'm pretty sure you're just joking now but just in case, TD only had four good years. Maybe he would have had more if not for injury but the fact remains, he didn't. One can even argue that he was a product of Mike Shanahan's zone blocking scheme that made players like Reuben Droughns look like an all pro. >>
[iIt's 3rd and 3........who would you rather have running the ball.....Terrell Davis or Bary Sanders???]
Neither! I'd take Romo on a naked bootleg ANYDAY!!!!
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In that scenario and most any other, I'll take any rb in history with a season over 800 yards plus the rest of the early 90s cowboys over a magical rb combining the best of Adrian Peterson, Walter Payton, Emmitt Smith and Jim brown plus any of the teams sanders was stuck with.
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Dimeman is the guy who proclaims to have all this first hand knowledge about Cowboys history, yet he calls one of their most iconic games, the "frozen bowl." He doesn't know how to spell any of the Cowboy player names either. Sure, everybody makes spelling mistakes, but one would think that with all the years of first hand knowledge, one would know how to spell the names of all the legends correctly. Not sure if Dimeman knows who Michael Irvin is...maybe he knows him as Irving?
I see with the education Dimeman receives on these boards that he is starting to learn who some of these players actually are. I think he probably just learned who Herschel Walker was.
Anyway, it is obvious Dimeman's words are to be taken with a grain of salt. His words make for good comedy though.
<< <i>I bow to the all knowing skin2! And apologize for miss naming an event that took place 50 years ago! >>
Dimeman, it isn't just that.
You claim you have immersed yourself in Cowboy history since that historic game(that you can't seem to name right)...and you have shown the inability to spell the names of Cowboy legends correctly. Everybody makes spelling mistakes, but your consistent spelling mistakes of those legends are more in line with a fair weather-johnny come lately-fan, as opposed to somebody who has immersed themselves in the game and knows what they are talking about.
Either that, or you are simply not very bright...neither of which lends any credence to the opinions you put forth on the subject matter.
It is already evident that you are not capable of objective evaluation.
Skin - Really......since I am a bad speller I can't be true fan!!!!
And the fact that I don't go ga ga over Barry Sanders running around like a chicken with his head cut off and I don't like Romo the choker........I am a poor judge on players!
So be it....it doesn't really matter what you think.....I am a die hard Cowboy fan and I don't think we will ever get to a SB with Romo at QB and I don't care for Barry Sanders!
<< <i>Skin - Really......since I am a bad speller I can't be true fan!!!!
And the fact that I don't go ga ga over Barry Sanders running around like a chicken with his head cut off and I don't like Romo the choker........I am a poor judge on players!
So be it....it doesn't really matter what you think.....I am a die hard Cowboy fan and I don't think we will ever get to a SB with Romo at QB and I don't care for Barry Sanders! >>
Has nothing to do with being a bad speller. You claim you are so immersed in the game and the Cowboys, yet you can't spell the name of the Cowboy legends correctly? Anyone who is as immersed as you claim would know how to spell their names. You don't have a problem spelling your name, or even other words that you write, yet you would say "Irving," instead of Irvin. If you were as immersed in it as you say, you would have seen his name spelled a million times. Those mistakes you are making are more in line with a johnny come lately or casual observer...certainly not someone who is immersed.
However, that alone doesn't show your ignorance...the rest of what you write pretty much takes care of that.
Edited to Add...that may be too harsh of an assessment from me, as I believe a lot of what you say rests in biased views, or utilizing a whipping boy to project your own feelings...as opposed to looking at things objectively and logically.
I know the argument against Smith is the talent he played with, especially the Offensive Line but none of them became great until Smith arrived in Dallas in 1990. He was the first to make a Pro Bowl or win any type of award. The Offensive Line was filled with veterans (who weren't exactly standouts) and Smith had already established himself as one of the best backs in the league before either Erik Williams or Larry Allen became a full time starters.
And from 1995 to 1998 Sanders played in an offense that had two WR's with nearly 1,000 yards a piece.
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He holds 2 records....which keeps him off my team. Plus all the others that are better on the list.
1) Most yards lost.
2) Most yards run to gain 1 yard!
Nice bring up on Touchdown Tony......yet another RB better than sanders.
Tony holds a record that never will be broken......99 yard run, which was actually 99 and 1/2 yards.
<< <i>You Sanders nuts crack me up. He doesn't make the top ten list for me. I wouldn't have him on my team. >>
I think I can squeeze him into my top ten.
Problem Barry had was a huge standard deviation from his career average five yards per carry. His numbers more resembled a receiver than an RB. A good back hammers out 3 or 4 yards for a first down. That was not Sanders forte.
He could bust a hole and scamper for 50 and then lose 10 yards on each of the next two carries.
Having said all that, never, ever has the NFL witness such an athletic or exciting player.
You can call it exciting if you like. I call it a circus.
Give me the downhill runner that plows ahead for first downs and moves the chains and gets in the end zone!!
Do you know why Barry had all those rushes for negative yards? Because he had no one to block for him up front!!
And here's a stat for you~even with all the plays where 3 defenders would be in the backfield before he took a first step resulting in a 2-yard loss, he still AVERAGED 5.0 YARDS PER CARRY FOR HIS ENTIRE CAREER! You want RBs who score TDs?? He scored 109 in just 10 seasons! What are you talking about?>? LOL!
He had two Pro Bowl OL during his tenure at Detroit. By comparison, E. Smith had six OL Pro Bowlers and a HALL OF FAME OL up front (not to mention Moose Johnston blocking for him and Troy Aikman and Michael Irvin on offense, too).
Put Sanders on the Cowboys during the 90s and he rushes for 20K yards! And Tony D? Better than Barry? LMAO!! Well, ok, he was lucky enough to once get the ball and run for 99 yds on one play, so that must make him the better all time RB. Surely, you can't be that simplistic when evaluating a player? Can you??
Dimeman, your failure to grasp anything but the most obvious stats in football without understanding the meaning or significance behind them, is really misguided, but not surprising.
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There are at least 20 runners better than sanders......at least!
<< <i>Grote you and all the other Sanders fans can bring up the stats and nonsense you want about who played with who and who this and who that.
There are at least 20 runners better than sanders......at least! >>
There are also at least 20 posters on this board who understand the game of football better than you ever will. At least! LOL!
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<< <i>Grote you and all the other Sanders fans can bring up the stats and nonsense you want about who played with who and who this and who that.
There are at least 20 runners better than sanders......at least! >>
Never has a poster been more wrong more often. You are number 1 all time. This is hardly debatable. Seriously John you are priceless
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I think we can all agree that the Cowboys during Dorsett's era were a much better team that the Lions during Sanders' era, correct?
Yet "Touchdown Tony" scored only 90 total touchdowns in 173 games over 12 seasons (4.3 YPG), while Barry Sanders scored 109 total touchdowns in 153 games over 10 seasons (5.0 YPG). All while playing for an inferior team that would literally stack the box on almost every play knowing Sanders would get the rock. Perhaps "Touchdown Tony" is a misnomer, at least when used in this partcular comparison.
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<< <i>All I can say about Rafael Septien is that it was an automatic 3 points.......45 yds and in. >>
Automatic?? He was 38 for EIGHTY THREE lifetime from 40-49 yards. Unless by "automatic" you mean successful less than half the time, LOL!!
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I said 45 and in.....and you bring in stats for 40-49.
And no, I am not basing my assessment of TD on the 99 yard run.......just brought it up.
You can diss me all you want, but I will take runners like Smith, Brown, Riggins, Dickerson, Tony D., Cambell and many many more over Barry Sanders.
And you can still have Romo!
I really don't know how bad things have to get before Jerry starts looking for a new QB. But then he has made some real dumb moves over the years. I will give him credit for the good things and good results when he first got the team, but it's been pretty much downhill since 1996!
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<< <i>You can diss me all you want, but I will take runners like Smith, Brown, Riggins, Dickerson, Tony D., Cambell and many many more over Barry Sanders. >>
Chuck Muncie. Not many better at pounding one up the middle.
Ding Ding Ding!!!! Yet another RB better than Barry Sanders!
<< <i>>>>Chuck Muncie. Not many better at pounding one up the middle. <<<
Ding Ding Ding!!!! Yet another RB better than Barry Sanders!
....and he could throw better than Romo!
<< <i>There are at least 20 runners better than sanders......at least! >>
There have been some breathtakingly dumb things said around these parts, but I honestly think it's time for someone to locate the blue ribbon and start dusting it off.
DIMEMAN, I like you and the extra spice (for lack of a better word) you bring come football season, but even in your most inebriated state you can't possibly believe this. If Barry hadn't cut short his career and had been afforded similar road-graders, he would most likely be the only player in NFL history to rush for 20k+. In the same breath, had Emmitt run behind a clearly inferior offensive line for 15 seasons, his stats wouldn't come close to mirroring what they are today.
The reason Barry had so many rushes for next to nothing is because his patchwork o-line was besieged on a regular basis. I'm not sure Houdini could have turned chicken sh!t into chicken salad as often as Barry was asked to. Yes, he was often molested in the backfield which made for some hideous rushes, but, on average, every time he went for one yard on first down and neg one on second, he busted off 15 the next time he was handed the ball. End of day, he averaged an extremely robust 5.0 for his entire career, almost a full yard more than Emmitt behind those (at the time) behemoths.
Digging a little deeper, I recently read an article that touched on this very topic (Emmitt v Barry), and I was confronted with some statistics that fueled what I already believed before: Barry was clearly the better back. It's not a foolproof methodology, but I find it to be a more compelling measure of performance than inferring a complete reversal of roles, as I did above.
Here goes.
During Barry's tenure with the Lions, his YPC was 4.99. For all others who happened to be running backs for Detroit during the exact same time period, the cumulative YPC was 3.97. The difference of 1.02 is the largest margin in NFL history when it comes to star RBs. Wider than that of Jim Brown (.89), Walter Payton (.43) and, yes, "Touchdown" Tony Dorsett (.45). Comparatively speaking, the difference between Emmitt's YPC and that of running back teammates from both DAL & ARI was .24, or 4.24-4.00.
Interpret that as you may, but one could make the strong argument that Emmitt was a product of his surrounding HoF teammates (QB, WR, OL). He was a great back, don't get me wrong, but Barry Sanders he absolutely was not. And if you'll quit sipping the kool-aid for a moment and expand your mind, DIMEMAN, I think you'll come to this realization. Or, at the very least, you'll stick him back in your top-20. LOL
Btw, lots of familiar mugs were tangling in this thread three years ago? lol
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<< <i>Grote you and all the other Sanders fans can bring up the stats and nonsense you want about who played with who and who this and who that.
There are at least 20 runners better than sanders......at least! >>
Dimeman. I'm the biggest Emmitt fan on the planet but come on with this stuff. Barry Sanders was a highlight reel waiting to happen. Yeah he lost yards but look how many he gained. He also didn't have the luxury of playing for a motivational coach who was a draft and trade mastermind. Which leads me to my next point. The supporting cast Johnson put together, allowed Emmitt and the whole team to function as a dominant, well oiled machine. Barry had Lomas Brown and who else? I can't remember and neither can anyone else lol.
There is no way there are 20 rb's better than Sanders. This thought boggles my mind
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Interpret that as you may, but one could make the strong argument that Emmitt was a product of his surrounding HoF teammates (QB, WR, OL). He was a great back, don't get me wrong, but Barry Sanders he absolutely was not. And if you'll quit sipping the kool-aid for a moment and expand your mind, DIMEMAN, I think you'll come to this realization. Or, at the very least, you'll stick him back in your top-20. LOL>>
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Dimeman....here are some highlights of the 21st best running back in the game of football.
Sanders>
I was just watching those highlights. It's incredible that on a lot of these runs there were 8 or 9 guys in the box. Emmit would have never seen the ball with 8 guys in the box.
MJ
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<< <i>>>>Chuck Muncie. Not many better at pounding one up the middle. <<<
Ding Ding Ding!!!! Yet another RB better than Barry Sanders! >>
Now I know you're just playing, Dimeman. Even you could not be that clueless! LOL!
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<< <i>>>>Chuck Muncie. Not many better at pounding one up the middle. <<<
Ding Ding Ding!!!! Yet another RB better than Barry Sanders! >>
Even you could not be that clueless! LOL! >>
I beg to differ.
MJ
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<< <i>>>>Chuck Muncie. Not many better at pounding one up the middle. <<<
Ding Ding Ding!!!! Yet another RB better than Barry Sanders! >>
Even you could not be that clueless! LOL! >>
I beg to differ.
MJ >>
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<< <i>Check out this Muncie pass.
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Duh. Obviously he could run better then Sanders and throw further then Romo. But could he kick as accurately as Septien from 37 yards?
MJ
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you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
The list of better QB's than Romo is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay longer than 20!
And guess what.......yet another RB better than Sanders....... Herschel Walker.
I don't care what the stats are on the 2, but I would take Walker any day over Sanders.
Walker was a beast and a very good receiver to boot! He was very good in Dallas.....then they traded him to Minn. for the FARM where he was not that great and we went on to have the BEST football team ever and won 3 SB's in the span of 4 years!
This guy was the best goal line RB in Lions history. And as of yet, not mentioned.
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<< <i>Lawnmowerman - I just went out and looked at your Cowboy backfield set.
And guess what.......yet another RB better than Sanders....... Herschel Walker.
I don't care what the stats are on the 2, but I would take Walker any day over Sanders.
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<< <i>>>>Chuck Muncie. Not many better at pounding one up the middle. <<<
Ding Ding Ding!!!! Yet another RB better than Barry Sanders! >>
Even you could not be that clueless! LOL! >>
I beg to differ.
MJ >>
Lmao!
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I know Im late to the fray but the fact that anyone would say that there were 20+ better running backs than Barry Sanders then that guy deserves to be called out yet again, its pure twilight zone material if you try to make sense of it.
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I know Im late to the fray but the fact that anyone would say that there were 20+ better running backs than Barry Sanders then that guy deserves to be called out yet again, its pure twilight zone material if you try to make sense of it. >>
^This!
I have the misfortune of living in Michigan so I have seen most every Lions game of the past 20 years.. and watching Barry make defenders look foolish almost every single week.
Rodney Peete knows whats up!
The list goes on and on.
<< <i>Terrell Davis- yet another better runner than Sanders!
The list goes on and on. >>
I'm pretty sure you're just joking now but just in case, TD only had four good years. Maybe he would have had more if not for injury but the fact remains, he didn't. One can even argue that he was a product of Mike Shanahan's zone blocking scheme that made players like Reuben Droughns look like an all pro.
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<< <i>Terrell Davis- yet another better runner than Sanders!
The list goes on and on. >>
I'm pretty sure you're just joking now but just in case, TD only had four good years. Maybe he would have had more if not for injury but the fact remains, he didn't. One can even argue that he was a product of Mike Shanahan's zone blocking scheme that made players like Reuben Droughns look like an all pro. >>
And Tatum Bell... and Mike Bell...
TD better than Sanders? get real.
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<< <i>Terrell Davis- yet another better runner than Sanders!
The list goes on and on. >>
I'm pretty sure you're just joking now but just in case, TD only had four good years. Maybe he would have had more if not for injury but the fact remains, he didn't. One can even argue that he was a product of Mike Shanahan's zone blocking scheme that made players like Reuben Droughns look like an all pro. >>
And Tatum Bell... and Mike Bell...
TD better than Sanders? get real. >>
....and Kristen Bell.
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<< <i>Terrell Davis- yet another better runner than Sanders!
The list goes on and on. >>
I'm pretty sure you're just joking now but just in case, TD only had four good years. Maybe he would have had more if not for injury but the fact remains, he didn't. One can even argue that he was a product of Mike Shanahan's zone blocking scheme that made players like Reuben Droughns look like an all pro. >>
And Tatum Bell... and Mike Bell...
TD better than Sanders? get real. >>
....and Kristen Bell. >>
Oh yeah!
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I'll take TD.
Neither! I'd take Romo on a naked bootleg ANYDAY!!!!
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<< <i>[iIt's 3rd and 3........who would you rather have running the ball.....Terrell Davis or Bary Sanders???]
Neither! I'd take Romo on a naked bootleg ANYDAY!!!! >>
Lol!
Tony Romo, add him to the list of players better than Barry Sanders!
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I see with the education Dimeman receives on these boards that he is starting to learn who some of these players actually are. I think he probably just learned who Herschel Walker was.
Anyway, it is obvious Dimeman's words are to be taken with a grain of salt. His words make for good comedy though.
<< <i>I bow to the all knowing skin2! And apologize for miss naming an event that took place 50 years ago! >>
Good call, Skin is the MAN!
<< <i>I bow to the all knowing skin2! And apologize for miss naming an event that took place 50 years ago! >>
Dimeman, it isn't just that.
You claim you have immersed yourself in Cowboy history since that historic game(that you can't seem to name right)...and you have shown the inability to spell the names of Cowboy legends correctly. Everybody makes spelling mistakes, but your consistent spelling mistakes of those legends are more in line with a fair weather-johnny come lately-fan, as opposed to somebody who has immersed themselves in the game and knows what they are talking about.
Either that, or you are simply not very bright...neither of which lends any credence to the opinions you put forth on the subject matter.
It is already evident that you are not capable of objective evaluation.
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And the fact that I don't go ga ga over Barry Sanders running around like a chicken with his head cut off and I don't like Romo the choker........I am a poor judge on players!
So be it....it doesn't really matter what you think.....I am a die hard Cowboy fan and I don't think we will ever get to a SB with Romo at QB and I don't care for Barry Sanders!
<< <i>I am a die hard Cowboy fan and I don't think we will ever get to a SB with Romo at QB >>
Agree.
<< <i>Skin - Really......since I am a bad speller I can't be true fan!!!!
And the fact that I don't go ga ga over Barry Sanders running around like a chicken with his head cut off and I don't like Romo the choker........I am a poor judge on players!
So be it....it doesn't really matter what you think.....I am a die hard Cowboy fan and I don't think we will ever get to a SB with Romo at QB and I don't care for Barry Sanders! >>
Has nothing to do with being a bad speller. You claim you are so immersed in the game and the Cowboys, yet you can't spell the name of the Cowboy legends correctly? Anyone who is as immersed as you claim would know how to spell their names. You don't have a problem spelling your name, or even other words that you write, yet you would say "Irving," instead of Irvin. If you were as immersed in it as you say, you would have seen his name spelled a million times. Those mistakes you are making are more in line with a johnny come lately or casual observer...certainly not someone who is immersed.
However, that alone doesn't show your ignorance...the rest of what you write pretty much takes care of that.
Edited to Add...that may be too harsh of an assessment from me, as I believe a lot of what you say rests in biased views, or utilizing a whipping boy to project your own feelings...as opposed to looking at things objectively and logically.
And from 1995 to 1998 Sanders played in an offense that had two WR's with nearly 1,000 yards a piece.
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