Vintage Photos of Hank Aaron and Wilt Chamberlain - Questions
frankhardy
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These came in a collection of cards and memorabilia that I purchased sometime back. I am very sure that these are original pictures.
The Aaron photo has a "raised dot" texture to it and says it is Kodak paper on the back.
There is one Chamberlain picture that has the date and the photographers name on the back. The picture with the lady handing him a basketball is the only one that is dated on the back.
The Cy Williams picture was a little bit too large to fit on my scanner that is why it looks cropped.
Pictures are below.
I know that the Aaron is just a regular photo. Are the Chamberlains wire photos? Would they be called press photos? They are smooth and shiney, but definitely vintage. Would they be considered "Type 1"? How do you tell the difference between a wire photo and a regular photo?
I am asking these questions because these are going on Ebay and I need to know how to list these. Any help would be appreciated.
The Aaron photo has a "raised dot" texture to it and says it is Kodak paper on the back.
There is one Chamberlain picture that has the date and the photographers name on the back. The picture with the lady handing him a basketball is the only one that is dated on the back.
The Cy Williams picture was a little bit too large to fit on my scanner that is why it looks cropped.
Pictures are below.
I know that the Aaron is just a regular photo. Are the Chamberlains wire photos? Would they be called press photos? They are smooth and shiney, but definitely vintage. Would they be considered "Type 1"? How do you tell the difference between a wire photo and a regular photo?
I am asking these questions because these are going on Ebay and I need to know how to list these. Any help would be appreciated.
Shane
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Shane
<< <i>Wilt is soooo sizing that lady up. >>
That's exactly what I was thinking... lol
<< <i>Wilt is soooo sizing that lady up. >>
That lady was #4,351 on the list.
<< <i>The Aaron photo has a "raised dot" texture to it >>
"Matte finish." You should use that term in your listing.
Many memorabilia collectors are critical of the "Type 1" and such labels that are now applied to photographs. Some love it because it applies prestige to their collectibles. Others hate it because it brings subjectivity and inconsistency. The most applied definition of a "Type 1" photo ( to the best of my limited knowledge) is a photo that is printed from the original negative within 2 years of the picture's date. I would venture to guess that the first Chamberlain photo is a Type 1 since it carries an early date and what seems to be the original photographer's stamp. That being said, you could label any of the photos (other than the Aaron) as either a wire or press photo and 99% of collectors looking for such an item would know what it was. To many collectors the terms "wire" and "press" are tautological to each other with little difference. Type 1 is a whole different story that I'm not qualified to answer.
If you want a real education in photos contact Henry Yee - http://cgi3.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=hyee_auctions
He and Marshall Fogel basically wrote the book regarding press photos, wire photos, RPPCs, and the like. I believe that it was actually Yee and Fogel that termed and defined all the photograph types. I.e. Type 1 - Type 2- Etc.
Good luck with your sales. My post might not have been all that helpful, but I thought I'd give you a real answer at least.
<< <i>I am not a huge collector of wire/press photos nor do I consider myself an expert, but I do own several. Here is what I think I know.
Many memorabilia collectors are critical of the "Type 1" and such labels that are now applied to photographs. Some love it because it applies prestige to their collectibles. Others hate it because it brings subjectivity and inconsistency. The most applied definition of a "Type 1" photo ( to the best of my limited knowledge) is a photo that is printed from the original negative within 2 years of the picture's date. I would venture to guess that the first Chamberlain photo is a Type 1 since it carries an early date and what seems to be the original photographer's stamp. That being said, you could label any of the photos (other than the Aaron) as either a wire or press photo and 99% of collectors looking for such an item would know what it was. To many collectors the terms "wire" and "press" are tautological to each other with little difference. Type 1 is a whole different story that I'm not qualified to answer.
If you want a real education in photos contact Henry Yee - http://cgi3.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=hyee_auctions
He and Marshall Fogel basically wrote the book regarding press photos, wire photos, RPPCs, and the like. I believe that it was actually Yee and Fogel that termed and defined all the photograph types. I.e. Type 1 - Type 2- Etc.
Good luck with your sales. My post might not have been all that helpful, but I thought I'd give you a real answer at least. >>
Thanks so much. I think that answered most of my questions. So, wire and press photo are used interchangeably. Also, I would think all of these are Type 1 because they most certainly are from the original negatives and produced within 2 years of the photo being taken.
Shane