Anyone want to break a 1967 pack?

scmavl

I have a PSA 8 cello pack of '67 Topps baseball that I'd like to do a group rip with. If you're interested, here is how this will work: There will be ten open slots as the '67 cellos should have 12 cards per pack and I would like two of them. Each slot will be $40. I will do the entire break on video, post it on YouTube, and mail the card(s) to each person. I'll draw names or use a web "randomizer", your choice. Is anyone interested?

Here is the pack:





As you can see, only one card is showing (Ron Swoboda) and the back card has been protected by that piece of paper/cardboard/whatever (unless it's a blank back). I got the pack from BBCE so you know it's legit. This is my favorite 60's Topps issue but I can't afford to break it by myself. The third series contains Aaron, Mays, Banks, Gibson, as well as the Leader cards (Koufax, Clemente, etc). A PSA 10 Leader card with Koufax sold for over $4000 and most of the star/leader cards go for between $100-600 in PSA 9. You can buy from one to five slots/cards, as I'd at least like to let a few people in on this. Please PM me if you're interested. Check or MO only as I don't want to use PP for this. Thanks, and if a mod thinks this needs to be in the Buy/Sell forum, please let me know.

And to those thinking the pack will be OC throughout, please watch this break of a '61 pack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmNdV0MXYHg&NR=1

SidePocket

Cool idea, wish I could join in. Be a bummer though to get position #1 (Swoboda).

Griffins

In my experience the centering on the top card is pretty indicative of the pack.
Based on this I think this pack is worth much more intact than the sum of its parts.
Remember the '70 Topps debacle from a few weeks ago?

heritage

In my experience the centering on the top card is pretty indicative of the pack.
Based on this I think this pack is worth much more intact than the sum of its parts.
Remember the '70 Topps debacle from a few weeks ago?

I agree a 100%

But good luck with what ever you do with it..

brendanb438

If this was to happen I think the only fair way to do the random drawing would be for you to video tape it putting the cards in order and to have someone else randomly draw and then you upload the tape at a set time while the person posts to these boards the random list at the same exact time.

scmavl

<< <i>In my experience the centering on the top card is pretty indicative of the pack.
Based on this I think this pack is worth much more intact than the sum of its parts.
Remember the '70 Topps debacle from a few weeks ago? >>



Not sure what 70's Topps debacle you're referring, I must've missed that. *EDIT- Oh, I remember, where he posted quite a few threads/photos* I've never opened a 60's pack but in all of the 70's packs I've opened, centering tends to shift throughout the pack. I've never had a pack where every card was cut the same way. Sometimes they get better, sometimes they get worse. Just my experience.

And if this pans out, as far as video & opening goes I agree we should post the list, then the next day I'll take a photo of the unopened/encapsulated pack with that days newspaper or something. That will show the pack had not been opened before the names were randomly drawn.

Lastly, I'm lowering it to $40 per slot.

Nikklos

Based on the 15 or so packs I opened, the 1970 Wax Box had 2-3 perfectly centered cards per pack (out of 10 cards) regardless of the centering of the front card. Not sure if that is any indication of what this 1967 may yield.

As a man who opened a box of 1970 wax, I would say that it is probably better to keep that pack sealed if all you are worried about is a profit. For me, I loved and continue to love every second opening packs. Worth every penny!

1acid

Im thinking about it... seems kinda exciting...

peace

jeffcbay

I would hardly call the 1970 box a "debacle". I thought it was great! Thank you for the Instant Classic Nikklos!

scmavl

Nikklos - I have always wanted to break a 60's pack so I just think it would be fun. And if some other people want the chance to get in on the fun and maybe even score a gradable card, the more the merrier. Not really worried about profit, but I also would like to recoup some of the $500 I spent on it.

1acid - I'd be glad to have you. However, I'd need a little extra $ from you to cover shipping the cards back. As I found out, Africa ain't cheap!

bxb

The "blank back" might be a 5x7 folded poster.

I have opened many 1967 packs. The centering of the front card usually carries through for most/all of the rest of the pack.

Also many of these packs tend to have minor corner damage and you need to look closely at the corners before you open it.

1acid

Haha yeah dont worry I will cover all the shipping this time( I still need to thank you, I cant wait for that package to arrive) but personally what im thinking is gambling 40$ , and id say 95% chance I wudnt even want the card(seeing as I would have 0 clue as to who the guy is... you could just keep it unless it turned out to be worth some $$$ or unless it was a Aaron, Mays, Banks, Gibson - Koufax and Clemente - Ive heard of those guys Anyways I do like the idea, 40$ for a shot at a 4000$ card, Im liking it more and more...

peace

70ToppsFanatic

If you can get enough people to participate, I'd suggest doing it as a live conference call/webex/skype screen share
event.

You pull the names out of a hat and establish the order. Then you open and show the cards in order.

scmavl

That's a good idea, Skyping it. Just not sure how long it'll take me to bust the holder! No one has committed yet but oh well, either we'll do a group break or I'll hold onto it for awhile. Or maybe open it myself.

mlbfan2

<< <i>And if this pans out, as far as video & opening goes I agree we should post the list, then the next day I'll take a photo of the unopened/encapsulated pack with that days newspaper or something. That will show the pack had not been opened before the names we randomly drawn. >>



All you have to do is let someone that is not participating choose a random order (like me, if you want ), then you show the order on paper on the video, right before you open the pack. You could also verbally announce the name of the person that gets each card as they are revealed.

Probstein123

cool idea

Nikklos

I don't know, SCMavl. You may want to think about opening that pack yourself. The rush of ripping really dissipates quickly when you have one shot and pull a badly-centered Johnny Orsino.

ahkmedbinladen

How about you send me 500.00 and Ill send you a couple 67 Psa 8s and even a 9 ? That way you will at least get something of value. I could even ship a few badly O/C cards and one with gum stains.

Griffins

debacle was the wrong term to use and I apologize- if packs are opened for entertainment, as the '70 box seemed to be, then it's a no brainer. It was a blast just seeing the break as it was posted, and debacle most certainly the wrong term to describe that.
However, if you are breaking a pack with the aim of breaking even or even getting ahead, you'd be better off buying expired lottery tickets. I've yet to see a pack that wasn't worth more than the sum of its parts, and if you're banking on the windfall that a run of PSA 9's would bring I think you're going to be sorely disappointed.

gemint

<< <i>debacle was the wrong term to use and I apologize- if packs are opened for entertainment, as the '70 box seemed to be, then it's a no brainer. It was a blast just seeing the break as it was posted, and debacle most certainly the wrong term to describe that.
However, if you are breaking a pack with the aim of breaking even or even getting ahead, you'd be better off buying expired lottery tickets. I've yet to see a pack that wasn't worth more than the sum of its parts, and if you're banking on the windfall that a run of PSA 9's would bring I think you're going to be sorely disappointed. >>



I think 'debacle' is an acceptable term when speaking of financial return on investment. You can't put a price on the entertainment value of opening these packs but yes, it's brutal when expecting to make money at it. If people have a few bucks burning a hole in their pocket, then this can be a fun endeavor.

scmavl - If this happens, be sure to archive it on Youtube. It's fun to go through and see all the pack breaks that have happened over the years. There aren't too many videos of 60s pack busts on there.

jeffcbay

I agree with you there.

scmavl

<< <i>scmavl - If this happens, be sure to archive it on Youtube. It's fun to go through and see all the pack breaks that have happened over the years. There aren't too many videos of 60s pack busts on there. >>



I absolutely will. I've busted a few 70's and 80's packs on my new YouTube channel. http://www.youtube.com/letsopensomepacks

gemint

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<< <i>scmavl - If this happens, be sure to archive it on Youtube. It's fun to go through and see all the pack breaks that have happened over the years. There aren't too many videos of 60s pack busts on there. >>



I absolutely will. I've busted a few 70's and 80's packs on my new YouTube channel. http://www.youtube.com/letsopensomepacks >>



Thanks. I'll have to check em out.

MULLINS5

I had a similar idea awhile back with '79 opc hockey, but with the Gretzky being the only big hit it didn't turn out a hit.

Great idea, hope more people go on board, would be nice to watch

thedutymon

<< <i>How about you send me 500.00 and Ill send you a couple 67 Psa 8s and even a 9 ? That way you will at least get something of value. I could even ship a few badly O/C cards and one with gum stains. >>

RonBurgundy

abl = spot on

bobbyw8469

<< <i>abl = spot on >>



Does ABL offer the CHANCE that he might send a Gibson/Mantle, et al? Probably not. At least with a sealed pack, you have a CHANCE of pulling one of the big cards.