Poor Wayne Simmonds.....shootout incident
EagleEyeKid
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This is really messed up. For those that don't know, Simmonds is a black hockey
player who was recently traded to the Flyers from the Kings.
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player who was recently traded to the Flyers from the Kings.
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So I have a case here of Dominion hockey. Any RC's I should be looking for? I know Crosby, Gretzky, Kane, a few Bruins players but that's it. I got a good price on it, and know it will go up in price, but I think I'll rip it. Thanks.
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Hockey is dominated by whites. Hockey needs time to evolve. I'm not sure how many non-whites are in the NHL, but it would be interesting to know.
EagleEye, do you know how many non-whites play in the NHL? I'm not a big Hockey guy, but Super Mario and Brett Hull were my favorites.
Dave
I'm sure there's more on their AHL and OHL affiliates.
Like the hockey slogan says, "hockey is for everyone."
29 players in the NHL and their affiliates from black African descent.
I see 10 -13 on active NHL rosters.
Forwards
Akim Aliu, Right Wing (Winnipeg Jets)
Paul Bissonnette (Multi-racial[1]), Left Wing: (Pittsburgh Penguins, Phoenix Coyotes)
Nigel Dawes [2], Left Wing: (New York Rangers, Phoenix Coyotes, Calgary Flames, Atlanta Thrashers, Montreal Canadiens)
Robbie Earl, (Minnesota Wild, Toronto Maple Leafs)
Mike Grier[3], Right Wing: (Edmonton Oilers, Washington Capitals, San Jose Sharks, Buffalo Sabres)
Jarome Iginla (Bi-racial, Nigerian[3][4]), Right Wing: (Calgary Flames)
Evander Kane, Center/Left Wing (Atlanta Thrashers, Winnipeg Jets)
Greg Mauldin[5], Right Wing: (Columbus Blue Jackets, Ottawa Senators, New York Islanders, Colorado Avalanche)
Jamal Mayers (Bi-racial), Left Wing: (St. Louis Blues, Toronto Maple Leafs, Calgary Flames, San Jose Sharks, Chicago Blackhawks)
Kenndal McArdle, Left Wing: (Florida Panthers, Winnipeg Jets)
Kyle Okposo (Bi-racial, Nigerian[6]), Right Wing: (New York Islanders)
Ryan Reaves - Right Wing (St. Louis Blues)
Wayne Simmonds[7], Right Wing: (Los Angeles Kings, Philadelphia Flyers)
Anthony Stewart[4], (Mixed) Centre: (Florida Panthers, Atlanta Thrashers, Carolina Hurricanes)
Chris Stewart[2], (Mixed) Right Wing: (Colorado Avalanche, St. Louis Blues)
Joel Ward[8], Right Wing: (Nashville Predators, Washington Capitals),
[edit] Defensemen
Shawn Belle[9]: (Minnesota Wild, Montreal Canadiens, Edmonton Oilers, Colorado Avalanche)
Francis Bouillon (Bi-racial, Haitian[10]): (Montreal Canadiens, Nashville Predators)
Dustin Byfuglien (Bi-racial[11]), Right Wing/Defenseman: (Chicago Blackhawks, Atlanta Thrashers, Winnipeg Jets)
Trevor Daley[12]: (Dallas Stars)
Maxime Fortunus (Dallas Stars)
Mark Fraser[13]: (New Jersey Devils)
Derek Joslin: (San Jose Sharks, Carolina Hurricanes)
Johnny Oduya (Bi-racial, Kenyan[14]): (New Jersey Devils, Atlanta Thrashers, Winnipeg Jets)
Theo Peckham: (Edmonton Oilers)
Bryce Salvador[15]: (St. Louis Blues, New Jersey Devils)
P. K. Subban: (Montreal Canadiens)
[edit] Goaltenders
Chris Beckford-Tseu (Multi-racial, Jamaican)[16] (St. Louis Blues, Florida Panthers)
Ray Emery[2] (Ottawa Senators, Philadelphia Flyers, Anaheim Ducks)
<< <i>Hockey is Baseball in the 1950's. I'm sure this happened to Robinson also.
Hockey is dominated by whites. Hockey needs time to evolve. I'm not sure how many non-whites are in the NHL, but it would be interesting to know.
EagleEye, do you know how many non-whites play in the NHL? I'm not a big Hockey guy, but Super Mario and Brett Hull were my favorites.
Dave >>
what do you mean by evolve? Its an expensive sport and thats why many inner city schools don't have it and thats where the interest would be raised to actually play.
29 players in the NHL and their affiliates from black African descent.
I see 10 -13 on active NHL rosters.
I see 20 (if Emery makes the Hawks as the backup).
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<< <i>Hockey is Baseball in the 1950's. I'm sure this happened to Robinson also.
Hockey is dominated by whites. Hockey needs time to evolve. I'm not sure how many non-whites are in the NHL, but it would be interesting to know.
EagleEye, do you know how many non-whites play in the NHL? I'm not a big Hockey guy, but Super Mario and Brett Hull were my favorites.
Dave >>
what do you mean by evolve? Its an expensive sport and thats why many inner city schools don't have it and thats where the interest would be raised to actually play. >>
Change peoples minds. It's a new game with more races and cultures. It takes time for people to accept sometimes.
Baseball broke the color barrier in the 1950's. In the 1970's it was much better for the players, but their were still some issues. It took baseball many years to really be accepting of black players in MLB.
Players and fans all must evolve and accept the changes. Hopefully Hockey can do it faster than Baseball.
NO, not all Players or Fans are the problem. It's a new game.
Dave
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<< <i>Hockey is Baseball in the 1950's. I'm sure this happened to Robinson also.
Hockey is dominated by whites. Hockey needs time to evolve. I'm not sure how many non-whites are in the NHL, but it would be interesting to know.
EagleEye, do you know how many non-whites play in the NHL? I'm not a big Hockey guy, but Super Mario and Brett Hull were my favorites.
Dave >>
what do you mean by evolve? Its an expensive sport and thats why many inner city schools don't have it and thats where the interest would be raised to actually play. >>
Change peoples minds. It's a new game with more races and cultures. It takes time for people to accept sometimes.
Baseball broke the color barrier in the 1950's. In the 1970's it was much better for the players, but their were still some issues. It took baseball many years to really be accepting of black players in MLB.
Players and fans all must evolve and accept the changes. Hopefully Hockey can do it faster than Baseball.
NO, not all Players or Fans are the problem. It's a new game.
Dave >>
hockey is not baseball in the 1950's. I'd venture to say hockey has had the lowest amount of race related incidents than any other major sport....pro or college. It's one isolated incident by one moron.
<< <i>I'm a minority, and I'm interested to know what makes this a racist incident. If they haven't been able to identify the fan who threw it, why does everyone presume it was an act of racism? Not every negative thing that happens to a minority is from racism. >>
Someone threw a banana at him. It's a rather odd choice of item unless it's for the implied connection with monkeys.
As far as the low number of black NHL players goes, there are very few hotbeds of youth hockey in the U.S., and most of those are near the Canadian border in areas that have few black residents - Minnesota alone accounts for about 20% of the American-born NHLers. Alaska accounts for more current American-born NHLers than Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia, and Kentucky combined.
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Nick
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First of all, I thought that the banana as a racist taunt was pretty much universally known. If you do not know, a simple google search will provide you with a global selection of ways in which it has been employed as a symbol that links black people with monkeys. There should be no debate about whether or not this was an intentional racist taunt. I'm sure that bananas were not available at the concession stand or the beer garden, and I'm pretty sure it was the only banana thrown on the ice during the night. Finally, there are no bananas for positive support rituals associated with the Flyers.
Secondly, I am an aboriginal person who played hockey at relatively high levels in Canada and the US so I can tell you that hockey can be and is a very racially intolerant sport, especially when you get into junior hockey and higher. I was often targeted and usually labeled as black, even though I've never been mistaken for a black person in any other setting. On the ice you take a lot of abuse from the other players, but it was the fans that were the worst. There was one place where a woman made a sign with my picture and the words "monkey boy" around it. She brought bunches of bananas to games which she tied to the end of a hockey stick and dangled them over the glass when I skated by. The sad thing was this behaviour was encouraged by the opposing team management, who actually gave her seats directly adjacent to the visiting players bench so she could be closer. I had two years of that crap before moving on to college hockey, and this was in the mid-90's. I'm sure it hasn't stopped. Just that when it happens in the NHL more people know about it.
This stuff happens too much, and I'm so happy that Wayne Simmonds is getting support from around the hockey world and in the press, because it simply isn't acceptable.
I'm not interested in sharing more specific info, but I hope my story gives some context to the overarching issue.
-Nathanael
Thanks for sharing, and I take your word for it, because I don't like how Canadiens embrace the fighting and violent hitting either in hockey.
However, I take issue with the fact that this is prevelant in American hockey circles. I have no facts to back it up, but I have never
heard of an American NHL city doing this, or at the USA collegiate level. I would like for you to provide info on if you've ever heard of
it happening there.
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<< <i>Hockey is Baseball in the 1950's. I'm sure this happened to Robinson also.
Hockey is dominated by whites. Hockey needs time to evolve. I'm not sure how many non-whites are in the NHL, but it would be interesting to know.
EagleEye, do you know how many non-whites play in the NHL? I'm not a big Hockey guy, but Super Mario and Brett Hull were my favorites.
Dave >>
what do you mean by evolve? Its an expensive sport and thats why many inner city schools don't have it and thats where the interest would be raised to actually play. >>
Change peoples minds. It's a new game with more races and cultures. It takes time for people to accept sometimes.
Baseball broke the color barrier in the 1950's. In the 1970's it was much better for the players, but their were still some issues. It took baseball many years to really be accepting of black players in MLB.
Players and fans all must evolve and accept the changes. Hopefully Hockey can do it faster than Baseball.
NO, not all Players or Fans are the problem. It's a new game.
Dave >>
hockey is not baseball in the 1950's. I'd venture to say hockey has had the lowest amount of race related incidents than any other major sport....pro or college. It's one isolated incident by one moron. >>
I disagree. From Chris Simon to John Vanbiesbrouck, hockey seems to have had more ugly racial incidents in recent memory than any of the other major sports.
Don't get me wrong, the vast majority of players are great, but there are way too many players who use race as a way to upset an opponent.