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advice on raw set building

captainthreeputtcaptainthreeputt Posts: 1,235 ✭✭
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Hi All,

I am more of a high end graded card collector. I just recently branched out on raw sets. Currently 1957, and 1968-75. I am trying to mostly collect NM, but there are definitely EX/MT and NMMT.

Here is my question. I have purchased many lots described as nmmt, and exmt-nm. As always, you know you will get many O/C and also gum stains and other little stains. Again, here is the question, would you rather have a NMMT O/C or a more centered exmt. Also, would you rather have a nmmt O/C or a more centered exmt?

I am sure this will be different person to person, so I would like to hear a lot of people chime in.

Thanks,

Brian
1911 C55 hockey
1935 National Chicle
1961 Golden Press
1962 Bell Brand Dodgers
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1957 Disney Characters
1965 Donruss Disneyland
1966 Get Smart
Brian

Comments

  • Probstein123Probstein123 Posts: 1,281 ✭
    great question...
    to me NM.MT OC = a 6 lets say
    NM OC = a 5 lets say
    EX-MT = a six....

    most peoples NM-MT is really NM, so if they are REALLY EX-MT, I'd rather have EX-MT centered...

    basically 6 is higher than 5....
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  • jimradjimrad Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭
    Hey Brian - centered cards !!
    They show nice raw in binders.
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  • ThoseBackPagesThoseBackPages Posts: 4,871 ✭✭
    centering first, always
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  • Indy78Indy78 Posts: 806 ✭✭✭
    Ex-mt centered. It looks better and it's easier to sell when the time comes.
  • eyeboneeyebone Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭
    as long as the centering is not too bad i prefer corners to centering. in other words, give me a card with 80/20 centering and razor sharp corners over a card that is well centered with softish corners.

    eyebone
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  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,564 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ex/mt centered.

    Mike
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  • lwehlerslwehlers Posts: 934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    corners and edges are number one for me. i do not like soft corners. then 70/30 or better on centering.
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    Centering is #1 to me. IMO a nicely centered card with a dinged corner or two presents a lot nicer. Good Luck!
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  • jboxjbox Posts: 408 ✭✭
    I find off centered cards personally offensive.
  • BrickBrick Posts: 4,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I behold beauty in a well centered mid grade card. Not so much in an off centered card.
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  • heritageheritage Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭
    Centered..
  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭
    most of my vintage is all low grade and ragged - in other words, well-loved.

    Among the things I don't mind, even a little bit: staple/tack holes, paper loss, creases, round corners, missing corners (exhibit A), writing (exhibit B), ink mustaches/spectacles, ink rabbi beards (exhibit C, which would be perfect if it wasn't OC), gum stains, water stains, coffee stains... the list goes on.

    The one thing I'm NOT a fan of: poor centering. I've got lots of severely OC cards, but I don't like 'em so much. Barfvader, I ain't.

    As promised, exhibits A, B and C:

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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I always prefer a true EX/MNT card over a NM or NM/MNT card that has problems.


    Good for you.
  • captainthreeputtcaptainthreeputt Posts: 1,235 ✭✭
    Well, thanks for all the input and I think I am now leaning towards centering provided it is only a one or two grade level difference. I think if it is three or more grade levels, I will do without the centering.

    Brian
    1911 C55 hockey
    1935 National Chicle
    1961 Golden Press
    1962 Bell Brand Dodgers
    Top 200 cards in the hobby
    Top 250 cards in the hobby
    All time lakers
    All time Dodgers
    1957 Disney Characters
    1965 Donruss Disneyland
    1966 Get Smart
    Brian
  • KeepItWarmKeepItWarm Posts: 579 ✭
    I know the big thing is "high-grade GRADED" on this site...but the satisfaction of collecting cards you can actually touch and feel is very alluring. There is a special power with raw vintage cards. The dings, stains, wrinkles only make them MORE REAL. Try for centered EX-MT....

    Always pumped up to hear about someone collecting raw!
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  • parkerjparkerj Posts: 1,098 ✭✭✭
    I for one, LOVE the raw building, and very much prefer centering over corner wear. Ex/mt centered all the way for me, but to each his own. I am in the midst of 66-69 raw sets and buy lots, picking the best for myself, selling off the rest.
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  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I know the big thing is "high-grade GRADED" on this site...but the satisfaction of collecting cards you can actually touch and feel is very alluring. There is a special power with raw vintage cards. >>



    +1

    I collect all my sets raw and look for cards that would probably grade out to a PSA 7. I prefer sharp corners, but not if the card is grossly OC where it takes away from the eye appeal.
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  • royalbrettroyalbrett Posts: 620 ✭✭✭


    << <i>corners and edges are number one for me. i do not like soft corners. then 70/30 or better on centering. >>



    Same here. I don't like the miscuts, but 70/30 is good for me.
    I like cards that look like they just came out of a pack. Sharp corners and edges.
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  • WFFLWFFL Posts: 496 ✭✭✭
    Nice centered cards are the winners for me. After seeing the comments and the pictures of cards, I googled Valmy Thomas to see it he was truly shot...I just read up on Valmy Thomas...quite an entertaining character.
  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Nice centered cards are the winners for me. After seeing the comments and the pictures of cards, I googled Valmy Thomas to see it he was truly shot...I just read up on Valmy Thomas...quite an entertaining character. >>

    Aug. 21, got shot in the streets

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  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I always prefer a true EX/MNT card over a NM or NM/MNT card that has problems. >>

    +1
    Mike
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