Top 10 most expensive items of Rugby memorabilia
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Hi there
Don’t know if there are any rugby fans on this forum, but to celebrate the current World Cup I thought I would post this article a Wikicollecting contributor has written regarding the Top 10 most expensive items of rugby union memorabilia:
http://en.wikicollecting.org/wikicollecting-orgs-top-10-most-expensive-elvis-presley-clot
If this needs any updating please do
Thanks
Dan
Don’t know if there are any rugby fans on this forum, but to celebrate the current World Cup I thought I would post this article a Wikicollecting contributor has written regarding the Top 10 most expensive items of rugby union memorabilia:
http://en.wikicollecting.org/wikicollecting-orgs-top-10-most-expensive-elvis-presley-clot
If this needs any updating please do
Thanks
Dan
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My small collection
Want List:
'61 Topps Roy Campanella in PSA 5-7
Cardinal T206 cards
Adam Wainwright GU Jersey
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
Thanks to this article and the fact that the rugby world cup is on at the moment I now have a reason to share something that might prevoiusly have seemed out of place. I will post some scans and pictures tomorrow.
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Here is the correct one, which Doug kindly found.
http://en.wikicollecting.org/wikicollecting-orgs-top-10-most-expensive-items-of-rugby-uni
In terms of rugby legends we could talk about Welshmen from the 70s such as Gareth Edwards or JPR Williams. Or in the 90s New Zealand's Jonah Lomu. Aussie winger David Campese was famed for his goose stepping...
JPR Williams (Wales, fullback): Had the ability to swerve and evade tackles. Fullback back-up - Don Clarke (NZ), Serge Blanco (France), George Nepia (NZ) and Gavin Hastings (Scotland).
Jonah Lomu (New Zealand, wing): Devastating on attack - just ask England's Mike Catt.
David Campese (Australia, wing): The slippery winger with a goose-step to die for. Campo was an enigma. Wing back-up - Jeff Wilson (NZ), Brian Lima (Samoa), Tony O'Reilly (Ireland), Gerald Davies (Wales) and John Kirwan (NZ).
Danie Gerber (South Africa, centre): A victim of apartheid, but Gerber was devastating in midfield.
Phillipe Sella (France, centre): The slippery Frenchman had longevity to boot, Centre back-up - Brian O'Driscoll (Ireland), Andre Boniface (France), Stirling Mortlock (Australia).
Mark Ella (Australia, fly-half / first five-eighth): A huge call here, but this guy had an amazing swerve and passing game plus he could kick. This puts him above other contenders. Fly-half back-up - Grant Fox (NZ), Barry John (Wales), Phil Bennett (Wales), Bennie Osler (SA), Naas Botha (SA), Hugo Porta (Argentina) and Michael Lynagh (Australia).
Gareth Edwards (Wales, scrum-half / halfback): Part of the amazing Wales and Lions sides of the 1970s, Edwards gets the spot just ahead of several other candidates. Scrum-half back-up: George Gregan (Australia), Joost Van Der Westhuizen (SA), Danie Craven (SA), Syd Going (NZ) and Nick Farr Jones (Australia).
Zinzan Brooke: (NZ, No.8): Brooke had all-round skills rarely seen in a forward, including the ability to drop-kick goals in Tests! No.8 back-up: Mervyn Davies (Wales), Wayne Shelford (NZ), Brian Lochore (NZ) and Morne Du Plessis (SA).
Michael Jones (NZ, flanker): The Iceman burst on the scene playing for Manu Samoa and went on to become one of the best loose forwards ever seen.
Jean-Pierre Rives (France, flanker): The snowy-haired Frenchman had amazing agility which gained France some amazing results in the 1970s and 1980s. Flanker back-up: Ian Kirkpatrick (NZ), Francois Pienaar (SA), Graham Mourie (NZ).
John Eales (Australia, lock): He was nicknamed Nobody because 'Nobody's perfect'. This Wallaby was great in the air, around the paddock, could kick goals and was a great leader.
Colin Meads (NZ, lock): This legendary All Black epitomises the Kiwi bloke and was part of a hugely successful period for New Zealand rugby from 1957-1971. Lock back-up: Frik Du Preez (SA), Bill Beaumont (England), Martin Johnson (England).
Jason Leonard (England, prop): Was at the centre of the dominant England pack during the 1990s and 2000s.
Wilson Whineray (NZ, prop): Another All Black legend who played over 30 Tests and was a great leader in the same time as Meads. Prop back-up: Os Du Randt (SA), Olo Brown (NZ), Nick Popplewell (Ireland).
Sean Fitzpatrick (NZ, hooker): Love him or hate him, Fitzy was a great leader and played 92 straight games for the All Blacks. Back-up hookers: Keith Wood (Ireland), Brian Moore (England).
Personally I would take Lomu out however I was at the game where he ran Michael cat over in the rugby world cup 1995....
Personally Danie Craven and Nass Botha should be on the list from South Africa.
As far as rookie cards go you are really going to struggle with this. A player would normally have to play for his local team for a few years beofre he would be selected to the National side. This being said, we are not huge on cards around here and most of these players would not have anything close to what we could consider a RC. Plz if you have watched Invictus, you would have seen Jona Lomu running ovre Mike Cat, I was in the front row about 25m away in the staduim something I will never forget... I went to quiet a few games in that world cup...
Hope this info helps, IMO the South Africans would be Nass Botha, Danie Craven , Francois Pienaar, Danie Gerber, I have a full book on the history of South African Rugby and I will put some pics up when I get home....
I dont think there is a definative Best player or even 3 best players ever but if i had to make a list I would say :
Sean Fitzpatrick
Nass Botha
Danie Craven
Zinzan Brooke
Gareth Edwards
David Campese
I went and dug out some rugby cards to give you an example I was able to find at least 2 Players from the list of greatest players ever, 1 is John Eales : John Eales (Australia, lock): He was nicknamed Nobody because 'Nobody's perfect'. This Wallaby was great in the air, around the paddock, could kick goals and was a great leader.
The other was Danie Gerber. Aswell as these 2 cards I have a book which is quiet interesting on its own. It is numbered and inside it sais that if you have a numbered book you have the origigal signatures included in the book, where the normal issue of the book would contain faxmile autos. I looked at the autos and IMO they all appear faxmile. Either way it is an interesting item and pictures are posted below along with cards of the 2 of the players I was able to find. Uli Schmidt who was notorius for biting another players ear off during a game and Danie Gerber, they both were Captains of South Africa and thus feature in the book. Every player who has captained south africa has his own page in the book.
Anyways here are the pics... aswell as a article on Infamous acts of rugby violence.... enjoy
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=10377598
pics
My brother traded almost his entire collection to get the card on the left when he was younger, he was both of our favourite players, played on the wing kinda like a WR
Uli Scmidt
Danie Gerber
The front of the book
Page explaining the # book
Autos
Peace
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haha anyways keep well and enjoy the world cup. lets hope South Africa can defend the Title and break the record. Heres hoping but I dont think they will. Their form does not look promising, im putting my money on NZ
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Jonah Lomu 1996 CARD CRAZY AUTHENTICS (NZ)
Francois Pienaar 1992 Sports Deck
I am a big fan of the old South African Team called Eastern Province, and I also collect stuff from legends like Danie Gerber, Garth Wright etc. Is there anybody that can help me out on this?
Regards
Gerann
I love Eastern Province and Springbok Rugby Legends.
Regards
Gerann
<< <i>Hi There
I am a big fan of the old South African Team called Eastern Province, and I also collect stuff from legends like Danie Gerber, Garth Wright etc. Is there anybody that can help me out on this?
Regards
Gerann >>
Check bidorbuy.co.za. It's the equivalent to eBay for south Africa..... I think anyways. It is difficult to make purchases though if you are from the US because it doesn't use PayPal.
here's a wiki page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Hastingswiki kevin hastings
here are some ebay cards
ebay kevin hastings
Jonah Lomu 1996 CARD CRAZY AUTHENTICS (NZ)
Francois Pienaar 1992 Sports Deck
Bosox1976
1995 DYNAMIC MARKETING Jonah Lomu
Could Jonah Lomu Have Made It in the NFL?
"He is a freak, and the sooner he leaves rugby the better.”
Those were the words of England captain Will Carling, after watching the 20 year old Jonah Lomu dismantle his England side, in the semi-final of the 1995 World Cup.
A day that went down in rugby history. A day that changed the sport forever.
Carling was right. Lomu was a freak. So much so that he was recruited by the Dallas Cowboys in early 96 to play pro football.
Unfortunately, a backup/practice squad salary was not enough to tempt Jonah away from his multi-million All Black contract, so he declined, and the rest is rugby history.
My question to you is, would he have been able to make the transition?
Firstly, a bit of background information. Lomu, at 20, stood 6’5", and weighed in at 283 pounds. You're probably assuming that he was some sort of lumbering forward. Think again. He also ran the hundred metres in 10.6 seconds.
Meaning, his 40 time, would probably be somewhere between 4.24 and 4.30.
As Carling said, a freak of nature.
From what I’ve read, the Cowboys had Lomu in mind for two potential positions. The first being running-back, in a Brandon Jacobs mould. The second being Linebacker. They were also prepared to hand out over a million dollars in wages to the New Zealander, so this was no speculative punt.
As a rugby player, Lomu played on the wing. Where his job was to basically receive lateral passes, and run with the ball as far as he could with it. Evading and breaking tackles on the way.
Very similar to a running back receiving pitches.
So the interest as a running back was obvious.
However, although Lomu had played with an oval ball before, he had no experience whatsoever in the NFL. He didn’t even know the rules.
He was very young though. 20 years of age when supposesdly recruited.
His hands would have been excellent—on the basis that he was a professional in a sport in which the entire purpose of the game is catching the ball, and holding on to it.
His collision skills would have also been noted. Rugby players take just as many hits as any running back. And spend years learning “contact skills.” In short, they are experts in getting hit, and not dropping the ball.
As a winger, he obviously had huge speed, and great evasive skills. He was required to break, and evade tackles throughout his entire rugby career.
On one noted occurance, he broke a shoulder to shoulder tackle from a 300 pound forward, to score.
My only issue as a running back is the fact that he had never played the game before. So would have to learn, in probably a few years, all the various blocking, route running, technicalities, that guys like Brandon Jacobs have been doing since they were 8 years old.
However, I have no doubts, that with his unbelievable physical, and technical rugby skills, he could have played as some sort of feature back. Possibly on kick returns, or over short yardage.
The second position quoted, was as a linebacker/end. I assume because he was a 290 pound guy, with Reggie Bush speed. A potentially unblockable player.
Again, physically, I don’t see an issue. He was as great an athlete, in terms of size/speed, as anyone who has played that position in NFL history.
Rugby is a sport where players must be equally profficient at defense and attack. They must break tackles, and make tackles, dependent on who had the ball. Lomu was known as a feared hitter, who rarely missed tackles.
As stated earlier, his hands were excellent.
And he had obvious coverage speed.
Making him, seemingly, the perfect linebacker/end hybrid, in a Demarcus Ware mould.
Again though, this was a man who had never even played a game of pro football. So whether he would have been able to pick up the complexities of beating blocks, coverages, blitzing, play action, is a question that will never be answered.
Wrapping up, I’d say Lomu was the perfect fit for the NFL. Physically, he was potentially the greatest athlete ever to play the game. Never before or since has a guy of his size and speed played an NFL down.
The only problem. He was born in the wrong country. So wasn’t spotted by scouts until he was probably too old to learn the required technicalities.
I think the fact that a top NFL franchise was prepared to offer a roster spot, and contract, to a player who didn’t even know what a “down” was, suggests how physicallly gifted he was.
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