Red Rooster Gretzky long hair

Everbound

Hello, I have this uncut sheet from the 81-82 Red Rooster hockey card collection. It has on it the 4 Wayne Gretzky long hair cards (each one has a different saying on it)... Does anyone know the value of this? Should I get this graded?
Thank you.

Dboneesq

For you:

Everbound

Thanks! I wasn't sure how to do that.

Smittys

Short hair examples

cefy1

That is quite a valuable piece. PSA no longer grades these, not sure if fakes exist. But the other grading companies do. If you are planning on selling yes, have them graded to prove authenticity.

Everbound

Cool pictures Smittys, I have the short hair one from 81-82. I'll post it up here along with any others I have.

cefy1: Thanks for the information! It's so hard to find anything on these, I looked around my city but no one knew what to make of them. Are some grading companies better than others? Too bad PSA won't do them anymore because it seems most people on here use them.

Tabe

Did somebody say "Red Rooster"?




Tabe

Dpeck100

I knew that was coming

You know Terry Taylor must be so embaressed about this gimick!

I am not a hockey collector but anything with 4 Wayne Gretzky cards from the early 80's has to be worth some nice bread to the right collector! Very cool piece!

Stingray

Is that Carlos Santana or really Grant Fuhr??

burke23

<< <i>Is that Carlos Santana or really Grant Fuhr?? >>



Looks more like Kotter to me

Everbound

Okay so here is my whole collection of Red Rooster cards... Guess no 1983-1984 year...

1981-1982





1982-1983




1984-1985




1985-1986




1986-1987

Frozencaribou

Funny that an ugly picture of Gretzky could be so desirable. Not that any of those portrait style photos are flattering to any of those young Oilers...

Glen Anderson was spending a lot of time at the tanning booth in the West Edmonton Mall, methinks. Either that or Dave "Cement head" Semenko was a snapshot from the morgue. "You and me better go for a canoe ride."

Garabaldi

That is alot of HOFers on those sheets.

Bear48

@ Everbound - Very nice collection.

Does PSA grade these cards?

Bear48

I should have said, why doesn't PSA grade these anymore?

Everbound

Thanks Bear48!
I am not sure why they won't grade these, I just learned that from cefy1.
Do you or anyone know a grading company that would?

jackstraw

As a former Gretzky collector I will say those Long Haired Red Roosters are tough and
at least 100 to 200 a piece. I don't know why PSA doesn't grade them any more but
you can rest assure that you will not get an answer so don't worry about it. To me they
look better in a CS1 then an oversized PSA holder with that beautiful mylar sleeve.
Nice collection..

Everbound

Thanks for the info jackstraw! Would you be able to recommend a grading company to use?

Bear48

I bought this one a while back.

rustyisin

if you're selling your sheet of Gretzky red rooster long hair please let me know. I'm an eager buyer.
thanks
Ross
e-mail at: rustyisin@hotmail.com

Smuggo

The "Yanni" variation.

RedHeart54

So why in the world doesn't PSA grade these anymore? Were they reprinted or something?

jackstraw

<< <i>Thanks for the info jackstraw! Would you be able to recommend a grading company to use? >>



I don't think seperating them is a great idea but if you decide to do it I would
give PSA a call and ask them if or why they do or don't grade them. Once you
get no where with them I would call SGC and see if they grade them..
Good luck in what ever you decide..

Everbound

Thanks again jackstraw, I won't be separating them that's for sure. I'll post if I find a company to grade them just in case anyone else has the same problem.

lafm

I spent some time communicating with Veronica at PSA and she tells me that they will grade these cards, they have without interruption since 2007. I brought up this forum thread and also mentioned that the cards have been pulled out of some collector sets (Gretzky's but still remain in Messier's). I made a point to strategically ask my questions so that with each email she would have to ask further question to somebody else. I am confident they still grade them and will be sending some in shortly. If I do run into problems I will post them here.

MinorLeaguer

Harpooned the white whale today. Most I ever paid for a PSA 3!



1981 Gretzky RR long hair

Dboneesq

Your link did not work. Here is your card.

Edited to add: I see you changed it!

Frozencaribou

That is one awesome looking 3. Congrats!

captainthreeputt

I would be interested as well. If you would turn on your pm or send me a pm.

Brian

Everbound

PSA will not grade the uncut sheets because they do not have a holder large enough to encapsulate them. Seems I will have look elsewhere.

MinorLeaguer

For something in the 4 fig range and up, it's a shame the grading companies with integrity can't do a registry service where you get a COA to go with your piece and, in turn, the company acts as the recordkeeper and registrar and run a service similar to a stock transfer agent. When you want to sell the item, you send the COA and the item to the grading co. "transfer agent" via traceable and insured mail with your signature on the back of the COA with a "medallion signature guarantee" (if banks will do this as there is insurance behind the medallion signature guarantee stamp) on the back of the COA and note the info for the new owner. The COA gets cancelled and a new one is issued in the new owner's name and sent with the item to the new owner. If you lose the COA, even if in the mail, to get it replaced, you have to pay a surety bond equal to approx. 2% of the appraised market value of the item (the 2% is an insurance premium. An insurance company like Chubb could underwrite the insurance or the grading co's could take the risk and underwrite it themselves and take the premiums as revenues).

To sell on eBay or an auction house, simply scan the COA as well. Maybe $50 - $100 fee for the registration and each subsequent transfer. Joe O, free grading for me for life if you do this and make money? Or perhaps $200k a year plus bonus and I'll come out and get it going for you. This could also assist with using a piece of memorabilia as collateral on a loan and could cut down on the ability to sell a stolen or counterfeit piece.


"PSA/COA - Registered" anyone?

rustyisin

"I brought up this forum thread and also mentioned that the cards have been pulled out of some collector sets (Gretzky's but still remain in Messier's)."

It's silly to assert that either Gretzky or Messier have a collection of these.
Firstly, I've been around the hobby in Edmonton, Toronto, ebay, etc. for 25+ years. I have seen a total
of two copies in person and a total of ZERO intact panels for sale on e-bay.
Second, and most importantly, when Gretzky and Messier left Edmonton a 1979 o-pee-chee Gretzky rookie was worth about
$50 and these intact panels were worth $5 - do you honestly believe Gretzky or Messier moved a pallet of them
with them to LA and New York?
From what I've seen and know these panels were likely destroyed at the source way back in 1981 at Gretzky's request. It's pretty obvious
that very few survived. We might very well be looking at a Honus Wagner T206 stuation.
This is my 2 cents

jackstraw

He was talking about the Gretzky and Messier PSA sets not them personally as collectors.
He said that they (PSA) pulled it from the Gretzky set but it remained in the Messier (PSA) set.

MinorLeaguer

YIKES!!!!!

1981 Red Rooster Gretzky Long Hair Full Sheet!

rustyisin

I suppose it's a matter of choice. If I had 10K I'd rather spend it on the sheet than:

Gretzky McFarlane toys

or similar in price to:



1979 Gretzky Sportscaster

the sheet is perhaps once in a lifetime item. The others are pretty common by way of comparison.
Again, just my 2 cents