Local coin shop find...MS Target Toned Washington Quarter - AT or NT?

uofa1285

Here are a couple pics...please feel free to explain your rationale if you like.






Cool coin either way though, I think.

Doug

Coins911

Hard to tell with those pics i'd lean NT

coinman420

first i need to know if its silver or clad.

AUandAG

I vote hmmmmmmmmm......................NT

bob

fivecents

NT and .

tightbudget

NT

ecichlid

market acceptable

uofa1285

<< <i>first i need to know if its silver or clad. >>



Wow, good question...I was so excited to buy it for $10 that I didn't even ask! I look at it now and can't tell due to the toning on the sides...anyway for me to find out without letting it drop on the kitchen table and listen for the pitch difference? lol.

Doug

coinsarefun

NT and very nice!

66RB

I think the S mintmark gives it away as being silver. I have a very similarly toned clad bicentennial.

Oh, I would say NT as well

anoldgoat

Silver? Could be NT, and nice.

Clad? No way NT.

I'm thinking silver.

mike

stealer

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<< <i>first i need to know if its silver or clad. >>



Wow, good question...I was so excited to buy it for $10 that I didn't even ask! I look at it now and can't tell due to the toning on the sides...anyway for me to find out without letting it drop on the kitchen table and listen for the pitch difference? lol.

Doug >>


Look at the edge. I've never seen one myself but I would imagine the edge of a silver one looks quite like a 40% silver half dollar.

coinman420

<< <i>I think the S mintmark gives it away as being silver. I have a very similarly toned clad bicentennial.

Oh, I would say NT as well >>



oops my bad, no clad S made. i say NT.

astrorat

To tell if it is silver or clad ...

1. Find a silver coin (positive control) and/or a clad coin (negative control).
2. Place a facial tissue over the coin and one of the control coins.
3. A silver coin will look "white" through the tissue and a clad will look "gray."

19Lyds

<< <i>To tell if it is silver or clad ...

1. Find a silver coin (positive control) and/or a clad coin (negative control).
2. Place a facial tissue over the coin and one of the control coins.
3. A silver coin will look "white" through the tissue and a clad will look "gray." >>

For 1976, to tell if its silver or clad, look at the mint mark.

WoodenJefferson

True that all quarters struck in the Bicentennial year with a "S" mint mark are 40% silver, the next logical question is it one of the estimated 5,000,000 business struck quarters struck in 1975/76 or one of the estimated 4,000,000 proof quarters struck those years.

It does NOT look proofish but that can only be determined in hand.

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NotSure

<< <i>market acceptable >>



Agreed.

Tiny

I'm with the NT guys. I've seen many from that year tone like that in either silver. or even concrete.

I Like It

66RB

hey uofa, here's your coins' clad sister

Myqqy

<< <i>True that all quarters struck in the Bicentennial year with a "S" mint mark are 40% silver, the next logical question is it one of the estimated 5,000,000 business struck quarters struck in 1975/76 or one of the estimated 4,000,000 proof quarters struck those years. >>



I've got a pair of 1976-S quarters in PCGS PR69 dcam that i am selling on ebay right now- one is silver and one is clad, and both are mintmarked from san fran...

66RB

<< <i>I've got a pair of 1976-S quarters in PCGS PR69 dcam that i am selling on ebay right now- one is silver and one is clad, and both are mintmarked from san fran... >>



and they are proofs. Proofs have the S mintmark and were struck in clad and silver. MS examples, which the OP's coin clearly is, have an S mintmark only for the Silver version

fivecents

That quarter uofa posted is clad. The silver came in the seperate single capsule from the US mint.

Myqqy

<< <i> MS examples, which the OP's coin clearly is >>



Oh... i missed that part. Carry on!

Pokermandude

NT

kryptonitecomics

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<< <i>market acceptable >>



Agreed. >>



+2

66RB

<< <i>That quarter uofa posted is clad. The silver came in the seperate single capsule from the US mint. >>



So, it's clad with an S mintmark? It would have to be a proof then, no?

Sure doesn't look like a proof.

fivecents

<< <i>So, it's clad with an S mintmark? It would have to be a proof then, no? >>

Yes it is a proof.

19Lyds

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<< <i>True that all quarters struck in the Bicentennial year with a "S" mint mark are 40% silver, the next logical question is it one of the estimated 5,000,000 business struck quarters struck in 1975/76 or one of the estimated 4,000,000 proof quarters struck those years. >>



I've got a pair of 1976-S quarters in PCGS PR69 dcam that i am selling on ebay right now- one is silver and one is clad, and both are mintmarked from san fran... >>

The coin is definitely not a proof.

steveben

that coin doesn't look like a proof to me. it looks like the silver clad business strike. weigh it. if it's silver clad it will be 5.75 grams and if it's the copper nickel clad it will be 5.67 grams.

TheCoinGeezer

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<< <i>So, it's clad with an S mintmark? It would have to be a proof then, no? >>

Yes it is a proof. >>


It looks like a silver-clad MS issue to me. And I think the toning is natural.
Very pretty coin, esp. the reverse.

66Tbird

Good eye, good buy, as long as it stay that color.

WoodenJefferson

To avoid confusion, for the Bicentennial year of 1976, there were the following quarters minted with the "S" mint mark.

7,059,099 "S" clad Proof minted for the standard issue proof sets

5,000,000 estimated "S" 40% silver business strikes for circulation

4,000,000 estimated "S" 40% silver proof for the 3-piece Bicentennial sets

TwoSides2aCoin

NT
based on the presumption that people in this world would not experiment on such a coin. If AT, does it matter ? It's pleasing to the eye, as is.

Baley

To avoid confusion, for the Bicentennial year of 1976, there were the following quarters minted with the "S" mint mark.

7,059,099 "S" clad Proof minted for the standard issue proof sets

5,000,000 estimated "S" 40% silver business strikes for circulation

4,000,000 estimated "S" 40% silver proof for the 3-piece Bicentennial sets



wrong again! the S- mint 40% silver uncirculated (which this coin is) were not for circulation, they were for the 3 piece unc. sets for collectors, and the mintage was 11,000,000

the toning looks questionable to me, unless there's a convincing "storage story" to go with it

relicsncoins

I have a 3 piece bicentenial set in a red envelope with 40% Unc versions. So I know for a fact that the coin came in 40% in a non proof version for collectors.

jom

I agree with Baley...I think it is at best questionable. The devices seem to have the same toning as the field that surrounds it...that makes it questionable to me.

The real question is whether the OP LIKES the coin...given the price et al.

jom

UtahCoin

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<< <i>market acceptable >>



Agreed. >>



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+3

WoodenJefferson

<< <i>To avoid confusion, for the Bicentennial year of 1976, there were the following quarters minted with the "S" mint mark.

7,059,099 "S" clad Proof minted for the standard issue proof sets

5,000,000 estimated "S" 40% silver business strikes for circulation

4,000,000 estimated "S" 40% silver proof for the 3-piece Bicentennial sets



wrong again! the S- mint 40% silver uncirculated (which this coin is) were not for circulation, they were for the 3 piece unc. sets for collectors, and the mintage was 11,000,000

the toning looks questionable to me, unless there's a convincing "storage story" to go with it >>



I stand corrected about the using the word circulation to describe condition.

uofa1285

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<< <i>To avoid confusion, for the Bicentennial year of 1976, there were the following quarters minted with the "S" mint mark.

7,059,099 "S" clad Proof minted for the standard issue proof sets

5,000,000 estimated "S" 40% silver business strikes for circulation

4,000,000 estimated "S" 40% silver proof for the 3-piece Bicentennial sets



wrong again! the S- mint 40% silver uncirculated (which this coin is) were not for circulation, they were for the 3 piece unc. sets for collectors, and the mintage was 11,000,000

the toning looks questionable to me, unless there's a convincing "storage story" to go with it >>




I stand corrected about the using the word circulation to describe condition. >>



From memory as a kid (no research), I remember the proof and MS versions of the Bicenntennial sets from San Francisco. I remember them both being 40% silver.

I thank everyone for their input. Glad to know the one I have is the 40% silver...better explains the obverse toning, to me.