R.I.P. Mike Flanagan :(
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A body was discovered on his property, and it's now being reported that the body was that of Mike Flanagan. 
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If his motive was what is asserted here, it should make some people take a step back and reconsider how they deal with their disappointments as fans of professional sports. We're all here because we love them but far too many people in this world need to get a grip and put them into proper perspective.
All my sympathies for his surviving loved ones.
<< <i>Suicide. The cowards way out.
All my sympathies for his surviving loved ones. >>
This news is horrific enough - it isn't necessary to belittle those troubled individuals who choose this way out. Very, very sad news indeed.
It's tough to know, but he may have been struggling with depression for a long time. Very sad.
"Live everyday, don't throw it away"
I can't even imagine nor want to. Took many years for my mom to get back to somewhat normal life.
That poor family, thoughts and prayers to them. Wife, kids, I don't know, but they have some very hard days, weeks, months, years ahead.
I agree that it is selfish, but depression, bi polar, etc are real diseases that are more common than most think. This was the extreme.
"Live everyday, don't throw it away"
<< <i>Suicide. The cowards way out.
All my sympathies for his surviving loved ones. >>
I hope you never have to deal whatever MF was going through.
<< <i>Suicide. The cowards way out.
All my sympathies for his surviving loved ones. >>
I hope you never have to go through whatever MF went through.
<< <i>Suicide. The cowards way out.
All my sympathies for his surviving loved ones. >>
There's not a coward in the world who could ever summon the nerve to do something like this.
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"Live everyday, don't throw it away"
<< <i>Suicide. The cowards way out.
All my sympathies for his surviving loved ones. >>
The pro-abortionist calling Flanagan a coward. Unreal.
The fictional movie, "It's A Wonderful Life" is a good illustration of this. George Bailey on the surface was going to commit suicide over financial matters, but if ya watch the whole movie, it was deep seated emotional issues which was the root cause of his suicidal actions. The "guardian angel" Clarence, helped show George all that, which led the story to a happy ending. It's just a real shame that Flanagan couldn't get the proper counseling which possibly could have prevented this terrible event.
1) As I said earlier, I got to know MF better from watching O's games this year. I live in Richmond and as an AL East fan I do watch a fair amount of MASN games. Gary Thorne is like an old friend for 20 years; Jim Palmer is baseball smart and I have to laugh every time I see Rick Dempsey due to hearing all sorts of stories about him as a player way back when. But MF jumped out at me from the first game I heard him call: he had wit, baseball knowledge and insight about the whole human condition, not just warmed over cliches. I wish I was on record on these forums imploring you guys to listen to him speak. I thought it at the time but never did anything about it. He really was that smart and that funny.
2) Looking back with 24 hours to think, it makes more sense. I've battled depression for my adult life and the grim humor is that it frequently IS "the guy with the smile on his face and the kind word for everyone" who is hiding crippling pain. When I've been at my lowest I've been able to come up with some of the funniest zingers and non sequeters. But now that I'm happier my sense of humor isn't so acute. I guess that works for comedians in general - most of the best have been real messes. Bill Hicks comes to mind over all the rest. I don't know why this is but that's the way it seems to me.
I'm not going to jump in on the coward or not question. But I do see some of myself in MF (even though I wasn't a CY Young winning pitcher, etc) and I suppose that's a lot of why it struck me so hard. He had my respect as a thinker. Let's just leave it at that.
<< <i>The pro-abortionist calling Flanagan a coward. Unreal. >>
I have no idea what the F you are talking about, so shut your trap kid.
Regarding my 'coward' comment, I've been through a family suicide and the suicide of a close friend. Not my immediate family, but my cousin. It's horrible. He had three daughters and a wife. THEY are the ones left to live with his actions. I am still mad at him 10 years later. I'm only glad that he didn't hurt anyone else (with the gun). His father, my uncle, has never been the same. His brothers and sisters are different people since this happened. It's horrible for everyone involved - except my gutless cousin who killed himself.
In the other case, my close friend came home from work, pulled in his driveway, hit the garage door opener button and had to look at his wife hanging dead from a noose in the garage. Nice! Really classy! Actually, it's a total gutless chicken-sh!!t move. Leave! Run away! Divorce! Go find yourself! But don't kill yourself and leave the baby inside the house and let your husband come home and find you. Coward.
I understand that people have deep emotional problems. I understand that people hurt inside, people are lost and lonely. I know that people feel that ending their life is the best choice. And if they keep those feelings internalized until the point they pull the trigger, then there is nothing that could have been done. So now, Flanagan's family is left to grieve. To wonder, for the rest of their days 'what could I have done?', 'why didn't he tell me anything?', 'why wouldn't he ask me to help him?'.
It sucks for all involved.
The 'coward' comment is something I do believe, and I used it in the post because I knew it would get people talking. Well, I hoped that it would. I hope you guys (other than detroitfan...whatever he's talking about above) don't think I'm an ass. I am sad that Mr. Flanagan was so troubled in his life that he felt this was the best option...but I don't have much sympathy for him....just his surviving family.
EDIT: To Mickey71 - I am not a military person but I would never be so foolish as to pretend I know what a combat soldier has to deal with in their daily lives. I cannot imagine the mental strain put on regular, everyday people being ordered to kill or forced to kill or subjected to the horrors of being in a War. I have so much respect for military personnel and I am proud to live in the country they defend. THEY make me proud to be American. But with all due respect, when I hear about soldiers committing suicide, my first thought every time is NOT about the lost soldier....it's about the family. Maybe it's because of my cousins situation. I don't know. At no point was the term coward made in reference to military personnel.
You have some type of hard-on for me because I posted that picture and I don't know why. You obviously have strong convictions regarding the issue of abortion and so do I...but I have never typed out my feelings or stance on these message boards.
You - being the judgmental, know-it-all type - made a STUPID assumption that you know my feelings on a issue that has NOTHING to do with this thread.
Go troll somewhere else....
Thank you.
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<< <i>Maybe for once this thread could not involve attacks at one another. I don't care about other threads, just don't post attacks or jokes on this one. This tragedy has more consequences emotionally for the family than most will ever experience.
Thank you. >>
I agree with that 100%. I enjoy a good debate or sound argument as much as anyone, but certain topics and threads should be off limits for that, and this is definitely one of them.
<< <i>Well said Mike. I'm done in this thread and I apologize to all if my comment lead to this thread going so far off-topic. >>
+1 for me.
dont forget Sammy Stewart who was a very good pitcher in his pre-drug days.......he attended the same high school i did
RIP Mike
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i'm just sad thinking about it
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