What would you do?

fiveniner

I am planing on sending a bulk group of very early 50s football cards to PSA for grading.Normally I would request NO Qualifiers to be used in grading of the cards however because of the vintage 1951 bowman and because of the super condition except for centering would you rather have a PSA 9 OC or a straight 7 or 8 OC or straight 6?
I would appreciate your views

Thanks,

brianwintersfan

My preference is always no qualifiers but that's just me.

Sullyknows

The older the card, the more I am willing to accept qualifiers.

Sully

Yankees001

I'd go with Qualifiers. At least you'd have a higher grade, and a buyer could not complain about the grade. This should be "OC"

Dave

twiley

looking at the subject on this thread. I thought I would come in and see "For a klondike bar".

Carry on...

detroitfan2

Tony,

I just had the exact same situation with some 1955 Topps baseball. I went with the qualifiers and am happy with the results. I was originally a "I'd rather have a PSA 6 than a PSA 8 OC" guy, but after getting some PSA 8OC's for my 1955 set from fellow board member 1954, I was converted. The overall sharpness of the PSA 8OC (corner, edges, color) made them among the nicest cards in my set despite the centering.

Additionally, you could do some research on ebay completed listings to see if you can find any pricing difference between a PSA 8OC and a PSA 6 for your specific 1951 set.

The only other thing that puzzles me a bit is this: In general, I think people believe that a NQ card is 2 grades less than a qualified card (in other words, if you request NQ, your PSA 8OC automatically goes to a PSA 6). I know that in the set registry qualifiers knock you down 2 grades, maybe that is the reason for that belief. However, I wonder if there are times that a card that has all the qualities for a PSA 8 but the centering (thus receiving a PSA 8OC) actually is within the centering guidelines for a PSA 7, and thus the non-qualified grade is PSA 7. I would think you would always want a PSA 7 over a PSA 8OC.

-Tom

WinPitcher

Tom

You are correct and it works both ways too.

A card could be 9oc and get a 5 grade or lower too.

The 2 grade knock down is only for registry purposes.

Dialj

If they were for my PC, I would want them with the highest grade; even if they had qualifiers.

thedutymon

<< <i>Tony,

I just had the exact same situation with some 1955 Topps baseball. I went with the qualifiers and am happy with the results. I was originally a "I'd rather have a PSA 6 than a PSA 8 OC" guy, but after getting some PSA 8OC's for my 1955 set from fellow board member 1954, I was converted. The overall sharpness of the PSA 8OC (corner, edges, color) made them among the nicest cards in my set despite the centering.

Additionally, you could do some research on ebay completed listings to see if you can find any pricing difference between a PSA 8OC and a PSA 6 for your specific 1951 set.

The only other thing that puzzles me a bit is this: In general, I think people believe that a NQ card is 2 grades less than a qualified card (in other words, if you request NQ, your PSA 8OC automatically goes to a PSA 6). I know that in the set registry qualifiers knock you down 2 grades, maybe that is the reason for that belief. However, I wonder if there are times that a card that has all the qualities for a PSA 8 but the centering (thus receiving a PSA 8OC) actually is within the centering guidelines for a PSA 7, and thus the non-qualified grade is PSA 7. I would think you would always want a PSA 7 over a PSA 8OC.

-Tom >>



Morning,

My experience for the most part is if say you have a blazer NM-MT 8 OC and I put a NQ on the line next to that card, then gererally (And of course every rule has a exception), but generally most of the time the Card comes back a NM 7 not an EX-MT 6.

I just did this with a really nice Rare error version of the 1957 Topps W. Sherman Card with "No Name No Position 0n Front" that was a nice strong NM 7 with almost no Bottom border, put NQ on the line next to it on the sub form and recieved a EX-MT 6 NQ which is what I was hoping for.

Just my take.

Neil

theskypilot

D***ed if you do D***ed if you don't like WINPITCHER points out A 9OC may need to drop all the way to a 5 for no qualifier. Take the qualifiers then re submit (9OC & 8OC) of what you feel are 7.5 & 8's with no qualifier . I know it cost more $$$ but that way you get the best of both

fiveniner

Thanks for your inputs.I am going to allow qualifiers.I do not know if it was just luck as I was one of the first arrivals at the National and I picked up a nice 51 Bowman set at a very reasonable price from BBCE with many of the cards looking as nice as the day they were printed.The original owner was very strict on condition centering is an issue on several of the cards.
I will show results once I send them and receive the results.