New NewP Vermont Baby Head, this one has some astounding detail!
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When you look at the surviving examples of the Vermont Baby Head, Ryder 9, the varied looks of the coins is very shocking. Perhaps, perhaps...this is the single worst struck type of coin ever made in this country. The planchets, they were the big problem. Huge voids, fissures, cracks, holes....just, and astonishing selection of 'what can go wrong with a planchet'.
For amusement sometime, work through the big auction house records of these sales. The pictures will amaze you. There are less than 40 sales between heritage and stacks archivs..but OMG there are some horrible pieces there.
But, for Vermonts...horrible is not always bad. horrible is sometime what you get, because there is nothing else. Almost the case with the Baby head. A previous post spoke of an MS62 impounded in a museum, the PCGS coin facts lists an AU53 and an AU50..perhaps a few others..then the VF graded coins. This piece, despite some surface corrosion, has solid VF details and NGC agreed . What you see on the reverse, those claw like projections from below the waistline, and especially that squarish looking thing on the shield (one of the four wheat sheaves)..this kind of detail is missing form 90 percent of the 250 or so survivors.
What an interesting piece. I think, possible, this is one I can do a concentrated effort on. So far, Ive got two, the Matthew Perry Pedigree Good 6 coin, and just bought this one. Still not here, these are sellers pics so we got what we got......
1786 Vermont Baby Head Ryder 9 NCS VF Details The best selling point on this coin, aside from the design details present, is the high quality planchet.
This is what you get for 34,000$, this is finest known *or nearly so*
For amusement sometime, work through the big auction house records of these sales. The pictures will amaze you. There are less than 40 sales between heritage and stacks archivs..but OMG there are some horrible pieces there.
But, for Vermonts...horrible is not always bad. horrible is sometime what you get, because there is nothing else. Almost the case with the Baby head. A previous post spoke of an MS62 impounded in a museum, the PCGS coin facts lists an AU53 and an AU50..perhaps a few others..then the VF graded coins. This piece, despite some surface corrosion, has solid VF details and NGC agreed . What you see on the reverse, those claw like projections from below the waistline, and especially that squarish looking thing on the shield (one of the four wheat sheaves)..this kind of detail is missing form 90 percent of the 250 or so survivors.
What an interesting piece. I think, possible, this is one I can do a concentrated effort on. So far, Ive got two, the Matthew Perry Pedigree Good 6 coin, and just bought this one. Still not here, these are sellers pics so we got what we got......
1786 Vermont Baby Head Ryder 9 NCS VF Details The best selling point on this coin, aside from the design details present, is the high quality planchet.
This is what you get for 34,000$, this is finest known *or nearly so*
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Is the Obverse incused? It may just be the photograph!
It is a sweet coin, Im sure few appreciate it but...damn, it is SWEET
This one, the first one, really has a nice obverse in hand. Very worn, yes, and somewhat corroded but again, and rare for the type, a planchet that is remarkably smooth and defect free.
Love this one as WELL!
God almighty...if all there was was PR69 kennedy half dollars.....Id go insane!
I see now that on this coin, the detail of the very top of the 'shirt', seen on the neck, is plainly visible but it is NOT on the 'finest known'. !
In fact a I just looked through over 40 sales between heritage and stacks and found NO OTHER coin which showed the top of the 'shirt'. That detail though is in the line drawings in the Crosby text.
I think {i got something here}