Sorry to vent - but I'm steaming p*ssed

gregm13 · August 12, 2011 3:05PM

I sent a Staubach rc in to be signed at the National and I am shocked at how little care was taken to provide a solid autograph for the $129 fee that was charged. I will refrain from naming the dealer, however I just sent him and e-mail saying that I will take my business elsewhere (this isn't the first incident w/ this dealer).

Arghhhhhh....

Greg M.

Sean1125 · August 12, 2011 3:39PM

Wow that is crappy, well justified I would be annoyed as well.

TheBusiness · August 12, 2011 3:58PM

Who was it so we know not to send stuff to them? I know I don't want to send $129 and a nice card only to have them send crap like that back.

Stone193 · August 12, 2011 4:01PM

Hi Greg

Wow - that's very disappointing!

Did you try to see if the dealer would make good on this? That's a really nice RC and they kinda messed it up with that smudge.

If I were the dealer - I would refund the money to you and keep you as a customer.

Sorry to see this.

jswieton · August 12, 2011 4:30PM

That really sucks. I would send them an email with a scan of the card tomorrow and ask for a refund.

Dboneesq · August 12, 2011 8:45PM

<< That really sucks. I would send them an email with a scan of the card tomorrow and ask for a refund. >>

+1

gregm13 · August 13, 2011 12:29AM

Thanks for the advice guys. This has happened before w/ this dealer before - which I thought that we had gotten past (he refunded my signing fees for the previous issue). He promised that from now on, he would personally ensure the cards are signed w/ a new sharpie. So - the 3 other cards that I had signed looked good, but the most expensive card (I paid $90 for it 10 years ago) was signed with a sharpie that appears to have been used to sign dozens of autographs before mine. Even if he refunds the cost of the autograph, I'm stuck having to shell out another $80 to $100 for another rookie card.

I sent him and e-mail last night and I'll defer naming him publicly unless he is unwilling to make this right.

Rgs,

Greg M.

thenavarro · August 13, 2011 1:35AM

<< Thanks for the advice guys. This has happened before w/ this dealer before - which I thought that we had gotten past (he refunded my signing fees for the previous issue). He promised that from now on, he would personally ensure the cards are signed w/ a new sharpie. So - the 3 other cards that I had signed looked good, but the most expensive card (I paid $90 for it 10 years ago) was signed with a sharpie that appears to have been used to sign dozens of autographs before mine. Even if he refunds the cost of the autograph, I'm stuck having to shell out another $80 to $100 for another rookie card.

I sent him and e-mail last night and I'll defer naming him publicly unless he is unwilling to make this right.

Rgs,

Greg M. >>

Greg, if he/she refunds you the signing fee, I'd be more than happy to trade you either one of the Staubach's pictured below for your signed, smeared one. At that point, you'd be whole and could try again

gregm13 · August 13, 2011 1:38AM

Thanks for the offer Mike - I'll definately consider depending on the outcome. I still owe you a PM - get back w/ you later today.

Rgs,

Greg M.

KbKards · August 13, 2011 2:09AM

Does this thing work?

http://blog.showmesigs.com/?p=313

YogiBerraFan · August 13, 2011 4:11AM

Wow, that really sucks!

RipublicaninMass · August 13, 2011 7:21AM

Mickey71 · August 13, 2011 7:29AM

Was it from a bad pen or put in the holder right away and smudged. I would think this has happened many times. How would someone prevent this from happening? I would think that this would happen to 1 out of every 20 cards or so.....Just to add I do not get autographs and don't really know what to know about this type of thing.

divecchia · August 13, 2011 9:52AM

That really sucks...

Hope he will make good for you.

Donato

MBMiller25 · August 13, 2011 10:23AM

Class move Mike Navarro

jswieton · August 13, 2011 10:24AM

<< Does this thing work?

http://blog.showmesigs.com/?p=313 >>

This will only work on high gloss cards and photos. It won't work on anything that absorbs the ink into the surface.

miconelegacy · August 13, 2011 10:29AM

It looks smeared by the card saver. The person probably put it back in the holder right away. The pen looks a little bit thick too.

Sorry this happened to you, and hope the person makes it right.

gregm13 · August 14, 2011 6:31AM

<< It looks smeared by the card saver. The person probably put it back in the holder right away. The pen looks a little bit thick too.

Sorry this happened to you, and hope the person makes it right. >>

I've tested sharpies before, and the card was signed by a sharpie that had been used to sign 25+ other items. The dealer claimed that they swap out sharpies after 8 to 10 items - however that evidently wasn't the case w/ my card. Plus, as you pointed out, the person shoved the card back in the holder without letting it dry.

I'll see how the dealer responds and go from there.

Rgs,

Greg M.

MULLINS5 · August 14, 2011 7:05AM

no bueno.

Hallco · August 14, 2011 9:15AM

Dumb A$$ Sharpies!!!!

Reese3333 · August 14, 2011 9:28AM

Man that sucks! sorry buddy

gregm13 · August 21, 2011 2:01PM

The promoter finally responded and claims that a new sharpie was used and didn't offer to refund my $. He does business as Sports Card Heroes located in MD. I hate to call people out publicly, however I don't want other collectors to suffer the same fate.

Rgs,

Greg M.

miconelegacy · August 21, 2011 2:07PM

That doesn't seem right... Maybe TCC needs to know too.

He messed up, not even remotely your fault.

jswieton · August 21, 2011 2:28PM

That is a complete joke. If anyone has received more than one autograph in their lifetime they would be able to tell that was not signed with a new sharpie. Ok, even if you give them the benefit of the doubt and it was a new sharpie. How do they explain the huge smear? That is just bad business on their part. I will make sure never to use them for future signings.

RonBurgundy · August 21, 2011 10:24PM

Surprised Tri Star wasn't involved in this, this is something that's right in their strike zone.

CDsNuts · August 22, 2011 12:23AM

He does business as Sports Card Heroes located in MD.

I've been dealing with those guys for almost 15 years and they've always given great customer service and I've never had a problem with them.

stown · August 22, 2011 2:41AM

Could it be a possiblity that Roger accidently smudged the auto, perhaps with the back of his hand, after signing it?

gregm13 · August 22, 2011 2:48AM

<< He does business as Sports Card Heroes located in MD.

I've been dealing with those guys for almost 15 years and they've always given great customer service and I've never had a problem with them. >>

I really like Rodney as a person, however this isn't the first incident that wasn't resolved to my satisfaction.

Rgs,

Greg M.

gregm13 · August 22, 2011 2:52AM

<< Could it be a possiblity that Roger accidently smudged the auto, perhaps with the back of his hand, after signing it? >>

It's possible, however the autograph itself looks terrible because the sharpie used to sign my card had been overused. They are suppose to switch out sharpies every 8 to 10 items and the one used to sign my card had not been switched out within the 8 to 10 card limit.

I send cards to players TTM all the time w/ new sharpies and the only time that an autograph bubbles is when it has been overused.

Rgs,

Greg M.

MULLINS5 · August 22, 2011 3:05AM

New Sharpie or not the auto is smudged and they should work with you on that alone.

Sorry this happened.

stown · August 22, 2011 5:20AM

<< 

<< Could it be a possiblity that Roger accidently smudged the auto, perhaps with the back of his hand, after signing it? >>

It's possible, however the autograph itself looks terrible because the sharpie used to sign my card had been overused. They are suppose to switch out sharpies every 8 to 10 items and the one used to sign my card had not been switched out within the 8 to 10 card limit.

I send cards to players TTM all the time w/ new sharpies and the only time that an autograph bubbles is when it has been overused.

Rgs,

Greg M. >>

Oh, so that's what you have an issue with.

In all of the years I've attended shows, never once have I seen a sharpie replaced after 8 to 10 signings. Goes to show that you can learn something new every day.

Garabaldi · August 22, 2011 5:29AM

I think it probably could have been avoided if he/she just waited a couple of seconds before he shoved it back into the case.

TheBusiness · August 22, 2011 5:38AM

<< New Sharpie or not the auto is smudged and they should work with you on that alone.

Sorry this happened. >>

Exactly.

stown · August 22, 2011 5:56AM

<< I think it probably could have been avoided if he/she just waited a couple of seconds before he shoved it back into the case. >>

If the smudge came from quickly putting it into a top loader, wouldn't it go from down to up rather than left to right?

KbKards · August 22, 2011 6:25AM

If it was signed on the grassy knoll anything is possible. Personally I send everything I need to Kathy Bates at I'm your #1 fan. Every item signed with a new sharpie like their life depended on it.

Sorry to vent - but I'm steaming p*ssed

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